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[alekhkhanna]

@alekhkhanna , I'm not commenting about why your speeds are less.

I'm only conveying to @yougotmehere, that if he has an internet connection that can provide a 500mbps speed on LAN, he will be able to achieve his desired wifi speeds of >= 400 mbps* I've only a 100 mbps connection. So I can test max wifi speeds locally only. So I shared my device / router / server details, and a screenshot of the result. From a standpoint of measuring wifi speeds, how is it different from a speedtest server?

This is a video found on youtube of someone testing the same archer c6 router on a speedtest server. Youtube - speedtest. (I've not gone into his wifi adapter specs.) But you can clearly see his wifi router speeds.

Man, the guy has a 1 gbps connection, which is giving him 550 mbps wifi.

Thats what i meant when I said you'll get about 55 or 60 percent of real world wifi speeds.

On 500 mbps, you'll not get more than 350-380.

 

[varkey]

@alekhkhanna You are missing the point, it has nothing to do with your max internet throughput.

The 55-60% number is of the max phy/link speed of the wireless link not your internet wan speed.

 

[eriek_halenx]

The Archer C6 seems to be pretty good, especially at that price range @eriek_halenx

Yes @varkey . It was confusing to select a router with so many options available. Thankfully some knowledgeable people on Amazon reviews had mentioned the advantages of having gigabit port, 80 mhz band etc. I wasnt aware of these things before then.

Understanding Wi-Fi 4/5/6/6E/7/8 (802.11 n/ac/ax/be/bn)

Amazing explainer on AC, and what real world speeds can be expected.

Yes @alekhkhanna , its indeed a nice link, albeit a bit technical one to go through. Thanks for sharing. Its helpful. The below three statements from it clearly says that one will get about 55% of max possible wifi speed in 2x2 mimo, 80 mhz band, 5ghz wifi.

In a real-world test environment, on a 2×2 866.6 Mbps link, I saw 461 Mbps download speeds on one computer (comes out to 53%) and 540 Mbps on a second computer (comes out to 62%).

You can expect a maximum PHY speed of 866 Mbps (475 Mbps throughput) from an 802.11ac 2×2 client device.

Q: I am connected to my wifi router at 866 Mbps, but a speedtest shows only 400 Mbps? A: Due to wifi protocol overhead, the expected throughput at the application level is around 55% of the physical (PHY) wifi speed. This is normal and sadly, the industry has done a very poor job explaining this.

At 100 mbps, even i used to get 95-96 mbps. But not at 500 mbps.

And R7800 is no slouch either. With 4*3 MIMO, i was able to hit peak speeds of 380 mbps, but not sustained.

Just want to understand what kind of client is needed for this to utilize full speeds. 4*3 cannot hit 500, maybe 4*4 can ?

From your image uploaded, it seems you are indeed connected at 1300 mbps. This is also correct as per your document, wifi 5 - 256QAM - 80mhz -3x3 MIMO = 1300. You should be getting wifi speeds about 55-65% of 1300. I suspect you're not getting it because of the below issue mentioned in the doc.

UPDATE: According to this Aerohive blog post (question/answer 22) mobile devices are likely to STAY at 2×2:2 for a long time due to onerous power/battery requirements for supporting higher MIMO levels. This may change, but for now this appears 'confirmed' since the NEW Samsung Galaxy S10 in FCC filings (Feb 2019) stays at 2×2 MIMO for wifi.

 

[alekhkhanna]

Hey @eriek_halenx ! Hmmm. This is a laptop connected to power source, and using Netgear A7000. Since it shows 1300, it can't be 2*2, right ? I was continuously monitoring the link speed when doing speed tests and downloading files (used Windows Enterprise Eval edition directly from MS).
It still never hit beyond 380 mbps. Link connection was solid at 1300, and laptop and A7000, both were less than 10 feet of the router, with A7000 having clear line of sight with R7800.

My house is a single standing property, and no apartments here. So no wifi interference at all. I just have 1 more 5ghz network nearby, and we are on different frequencies. Just to be sure, I'm using DFS now.

 

[eriek_halenx]

@alekhkhanna , I'm not sure why. Are you connected to a slower usb port? I cant seem to think of anything else...

 

[alekhkhanna]

@eriek_halenx USB 3.0

 

[alekhkhanna]

@eriek_halenx and @varkey I kinda thought about it. 1300 and 866 are in duplex mode. So one way data is half i.e. 650 and 433. Now if I guess 60% (as the link I shared earlier 55%), 650 should give me around 390 (and I'm getting 380), whereas 433 should give around 260 (and that's what I nearly get) !
I'm talking about internet speeds (not link speed).
Hence if I have a 1733 client (4*4 MIMO), I should get (1733/2)*0.6, which is around 520 mbps, which is what the guy in the video was getting through his wifi even though he was on gigabit internet connection.
That means it's a protocol limitation.
Sounds right ?

Edit: For true gigabit wifi, you need 8*8 MIMO

 

[varkey]

The guy was clearly on 2x2 MIMO with 867 Mbps or so, you can see that in the video.

The up/down throughput is not just simply divided by 2, it's just that the total bandwidth is shared. The speedtest check upload and download one after the other not simultaneously.

2x2 MIMO can deliver 500 Mbps depending on the client, the router etc (is clearly shown in the video) Not all 2x2 MIMO capable routers are made the same or perform the same.

 

[alekhkhanna]

@varkey Just noticed his link speed. That's actually interesting. Thanks for pointing it out.

 

[Lobogris]

It is nearly impossible to get 1Gbps speed over WiFi using current consumer level technology. The maximum you will get is around 450 to 550 under best case scenarios. It would often be less than that. In addition to router limitations, there are limitations on the client side as well.