BSNL 500 home plan users... Be Careful... File an RTI !! BSNL is committing a FRAUD !!

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Hi there,

I'm Rajesh. I'm a PSU employee and i have been using the BSNL 500 home plan since last 2.5 years (approx). I had also applied for a 20% discount on usage and rental on my broadband charges according to the BSNL's discount plan. A few months back i came to know that according to rule of bsnl they were supposed to give me discount on Usage & Rental. But in all my bills the discount was made only on Rental(i.e only on Rs. 500). This means that i was getting discount of only Rs 100 whatever may be the bill. Also i was supposed to get the discount from the month of my application of the aforesaid discount. But it took them around 5 months to start giving me discount. The way i see it, BSNL is trying to allure the customers by making lucrative promises and then taking them for a ride and making a fool out of them. If one calculates... it could be possible that BSNL has made CRORES of Rupees just out of this malpractice.

As i knew the rule i decided to file an RTI application, the copy is as follows.
-------
To

The Public Information Officer
BSNL,
(Address of the location of public information officer)


Sub.: Application under RTI Act 2005.

Sir,
I’m a PSU Employee working in MECON Ltd. I had applied for 20% discount in March 2009 on my broadband charges. The rule clearly states that “the discount of 20% will be given from the month of application for the discount”. But in my case the first discounted bill was of August 2009 & September 2009 and that too only on the monthly rental and not on the usage. In this regard I need following information :

(1.) Please give me one copy of my application which I had given for the aforesaid discount of 20% for PSU employee. My telephone no. is 0651-2444651.
(2.) Provide me the daily progress report of my aforesaid application.
(3.) Provide me the Names, Designation, Phone Number and Address of all the officials to whom that application was forwarded. Please also tell me from which date to which date my application was kept/worked on by the officials involved. Please also tell me what work did they do on my application during the period my application was with them.
(4.) Please provide me with proof, the date on which all involved officers/staff received my application and the date on which the officer dispatched my application.
(5.) According to your rules or the Citizens Charter or any other order, how many days should it take to process and make my application effective. Please provide one copy of that particular page of the document which states that rule.
(6.) Please give me one copy of the document which states the rule about 20% discount on broadband charges to be given to PSU employees.
(7.) The officials involved in processing my application have not adhered to the time period mentioned in the conduct rule to make my application effective. Are those officials guilty of violating the rules and hence guilty of misconduct under their conduct rules? Please provide me one copy of the conduct rule and also specify whether the officers involved have breached the conduct rules or not. If they are guilty, what actions will be taken against the guilty officials, for violating all the above rules and causing mental agony to the public, and by which date.
(8.) The rule for 20% discount clearly states that the discount will be on usage and rental. But in all the bills the discount is made only on the rental and not at all on the usage. Give the reason for such billing. Please give the names, designation and phone numbers of the officers who are responsible for such wrong billing. Do you consider this malpractice, a fraud on part of BSNL. Please specify what actions will be taken on the officials responsible for wrong billing and constituting a fraud.
(9.) The rule for 20% discount on broadband charges for PSU employees clearly states that the discount will be made from the month of application. In my case the first discounted bill that I received was of August and September 2009, although I had applied for the discount in last week of March 20009 or first week of April 2009. So please tell me why is there such a discrepancy in between the rule and the conduct of BSNL’s concerned department.
(10.) Please tell the date by which all the persons who are guilty will be prosecuted.
(11.) Since I started getting the discounted bill from August 2009 and that too only on the rental and not on the usage, please tell me the exact date on which I will get the appropriate discounts on all the bill from the month of application to July 2009. Also tell the exact date on which I will get the discounts on the usage that have accrued (from the month of my application for 20% discount on broadband usage and rental for PSU employees) till today.


I’m submitting Rs. 10/- cash with this application. Please give me the receipt.


Yours truly,
My address.

Enclosures.:

(1.) One Xerox copy of bill of various months.

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This copy of my RTI application has been checked by a prominent Journalist of a Daily Newspaper. So it is as compact and effective as i could make it. Now the thing is, BSNL might retaliate (as is the normal custom) by giving me troubles in the name of hugely inflated bills or some other technique. This modus operandi of theirs can be throttled if 1000s' of people file the same/similar RTI application to the public information officer. Then the BSNL officials will be forced not to do any malpractice and they will also be incapable of doing any harm to anyone if lot many people file for the same information.

So i'm requesting all the readers of this forum to let this information flow to as many people as possible and atleast to all PSU employee who r using BSNL's broadband service and please ask them to file an RTI application as above.

BSNL is Committing a fraud and is earning Crores of Rupees just because of our negligence. DONT ALLOW IT TO HAPPEN TO YOU !! All it takes to stop BSNL from committing this fraud is Rs 10. (That is the amount one needs to file an RTI Application). This is a very small amount. Wouldn't you agree?

In case you need my suggestion or help, let me know at this email id :
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
 
Hi there,

I'm Rajesh. I'm a PSU employee and i have been using the BSNL 500 home plan since last 2.5 years (approx). I had also applied for a 20% discount on usage and rental on my broadband charges according to the BSNL's discount plan. A few months back i came to know that according to rule of bsnl they were supposed to give me discount on Usage & Rental. But in all my bills the discount was made only on Rental(i.e only on Rs. 500). This means that i was getting discount of only Rs 100 whatever may be the bill. Also i was supposed to get the discount from the month of my application of the aforesaid discount. But it took them around 5 months to start giving me discount. The way i see it, BSNL is trying to allure the customers by making lucrative promises and then taking them for a ride and making a fool out of them. If one calculates... it could be possible that BSNL has made CRORES of Rupees just out of this malpractice.

As i knew the rule i decided to file an RTI application, the copy is as follows.
-------
To

The Public Information Officer
BSNL,
(Address of the location of public information officer)


Sub.: Application under RTI Act 2005.

Sir,
I’m a PSU Employee working in MECON Ltd. I had applied for 20% discount in March 2009 on my broadband charges. The rule clearly states that “the discount of 20% will be given from the month of application for the discount”. But in my case the first discounted bill was of August 2009 & September 2009 and that too only on the monthly rental and not on the usage. In this regard I need following information :

(1.) Please give me one copy of my application which I had given for the aforesaid discount of 20% for PSU employee. My telephone no. is 0651-2444651.
(2.) Provide me the daily progress report of my aforesaid application.
(3.) Provide me the Names, Designation, Phone Number and Address of all the officials to whom that application was forwarded. Please also tell me from which date to which date my application was kept/worked on by the officials involved. Please also tell me what work did they do on my application during the period my application was with them.
(4.) Please provide me with proof, the date on which all involved officers/staff received my application and the date on which the officer dispatched my application.
(5.) According to your rules or the Citizens Charter or any other order, how many days should it take to process and make my application effective. Please provide one copy of that particular page of the document which states that rule.
(6.) Please give me one copy of the document which states the rule about 20% discount on broadband charges to be given to PSU employees.
(7.) The officials involved in processing my application have not adhered to the time period mentioned in the conduct rule to make my application effective. Are those officials guilty of violating the rules and hence guilty of misconduct under their conduct rules? Please provide me one copy of the conduct rule and also specify whether the officers involved have breached the conduct rules or not. If they are guilty, what actions will be taken against the guilty officials, for violating all the above rules and causing mental agony to the public, and by which date.
(8.) The rule for 20% discount clearly states that the discount will be on usage and rental. But in all the bills the discount is made only on the rental and not at all on the usage. Give the reason for such billing. Please give the names, designation and phone numbers of the officers who are responsible for such wrong billing. Do you consider this malpractice, a fraud on part of BSNL. Please specify what actions will be taken on the officials responsible for wrong billing and constituting a fraud.
(9.) The rule for 20% discount on broadband charges for PSU employees clearly states that the discount will be made from the month of application. In my case the first discounted bill that I received was of August and September 2009, although I had applied for the discount in last week of March 20009 or first week of April 2009. So please tell me why is there such a discrepancy in between the rule and the conduct of BSNL’s concerned department.
(10.) Please tell the date by which all the persons who are guilty will be prosecuted.
(11.) Since I started getting the discounted bill from August 2009 and that too only on the rental and not on the usage, please tell me the exact date on which I will get the appropriate discounts on all the bill from the month of application to July 2009. Also tell the exact date on which I will get the discounts on the usage that have accrued (from the month of my application for 20% discount on broadband usage and rental for PSU employees) till today.


I’m submitting Rs. 10/- cash with this application. Please give me the receipt.


Yours truly,
My address.

Enclosures.:

(1.) One Xerox copy of bill of various months.

--------


This copy of my RTI application has been checked by a prominent Journalist of a Daily Newspaper. So it is as compact and effective as i could make it. Now the thing is, BSNL might retaliate (as is the normal custom) by giving me troubles in the name of hugely inflated bills or some other technique. This modus operandi of theirs can be throttled if 1000s' of people file the same/similar RTI application to the public information officer. Then the BSNL officials will be forced not to do any malpractice and they will also be incapable of doing any harm to anyone if lot many people file for the same information.

So i'm requesting all the readers of this forum to let this information flow to as many people as possible and atleast to all PSU employee who r using BSNL's broadband service and please ask them to file an RTI application as above.

BSNL is Committing a fraud and is earning Crores of Rupees just because of our negligence. DONT ALLOW IT TO HAPPEN TO YOU !! All it takes to stop BSNL from committing this fraud is Rs 10. (That is the amount one needs to file an RTI Application). This is a very small amount. Wouldn't you agree?

In case you need my suggestion or help, let me know at this email id :
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
 
Hi
I have two connections at home and both have govt employee discount of 20%
Last month i.e month of july i have excess usage beyond the both plans 80 mb and 40mb for which i have been charged 38 rs and 19 rs (80mb*0.60paise-20% = 38rs)
I guess it just an off case with yours,just file an complaint with customer care of bsnl online here General Complaints
or your state bsnl website Welcome to Jharkhand Telecom Circle
or contact nearest officers/offices with a written request to rectify the problem Jamshedpur CSC
make a written request to rectify the problem and then wait for next month and then you can move via RTI
afterall you need your problem to be solved
Its a small error that has crept in ..so dont be harsh,you could have made it a complaint before
if you have given complaint already,then ask for progress of redressal of the complaint under RTI
 
यार जहा तक मुझे ध्यान है डिस्काउंट केवल रेंट पर ही उपलब्ध है.... uses पर नहीं है
 
i am a govt. employee too in 500C plan.... in the month of June i consumed a total of 1944 MB, so the net MB works out to be (1944-1536) 408 MB.... after a discount of 20% in usage, it comes to 326 MB... the amount charged was Rs. 196. (326 X 0.6 = 195.6)... so, i think i am lucky...
 
I'm too taking 20% discount but I got it from first month of my connection.There's also one separate form for govt. employee to take the discount , have you filled it , before you got the connection ?
 
I'm too taking 20% discount but I got it from first month of my connection.There's also one separate form for govt. employee to take the discount , have you filled it , before you got the connection ?


I don't exactly remember how many and what forms i filled nearly 2.5 years ago.
But in any case, if i'm getting the discount, which i'm getting, this means that i have fulfilled all the pre-requisite for getting the discount. So according to bsnl's rule i should have got the discount from the month of application.

Fun fact: When i went to bsnl's accounts officer inquiring about this malpractice, they said that the discount will be from the month when the official will make it effective and clearly not from the month of application. I was appalled because of their response. I even went to another bsnl office in another area on the assumption that may be they would be following the rules. But unfortunately the too were ignorant and adamant about their view of the rule.

So finally i had to file an rti application to make them understand what i was trying to say to them.
 
When a customer applied for a status change,service modification this will be given from the 1st of the next month of the date of application. the Accounts officer Stands is not correct. in your case the application received by the month of march should be included in the month of April bill.20% discount is applicable both Rental and usage.Even the clerical cadre of bsnl know this ruling, your unfortunate thing is you are probably served by that some persons who has failed Accounts exam but still got promotion..remedy is not RTI.. but simply go to Chief Accounts Officer, or DGM (Finance) not all of them are stupid.. Had you attempt that, you may got the remedy by that time..Because one person is stupid portraying whole organization, is not a sound logic.. When the rule itself is a open door book.. why RTI application? The remedy is in your hand but you blow it..with regards,vaithy
 
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