Faulty definition of broadband by govt of India

[mgcarley]

hehe i think i do touch 200GB sometimes. but not every month. overall i should be a profitable customer. (after the initial novelty of a 2/5mbps plan wears off!).

If you're under 150GB most months, no worries and like I said, I think we can do better for you - if nothing else IBF has been instrumental in gathering support for our project.

frankly speaking i would have much more respect for your network than let's say airtel. airtel is like this monster now with their stupid policies like differencial pricing/plans in different regions. and different plans for different customers in the same city.

I think all ISPs are like this aren't they? I think it's partially because customers can throw a fit if you change their plan on them - that's been evidenced countless times on this forum. That said, most of the time the big boys make the plans less value for money so it's a little understandable.

What we intend to happen within our billing system is, say we reduce the cost of the 5mbit/s flat-rate plan from 2500+tax to 2000+tax (for example), then we give 1 month notice to all customers (for example, in their bill or via the kiosks or whatever) and then when the price change kicks in, all customers pricing is automatically migrated... then those that didn't get the message will be pleasently surprised by the savings

The unfortunate side-effect is that *if* we ever had to do something as ridiculous as introduce a hard-limited FUP (eg 150GB @ 5mbit/s, then you experience a speed drop), then that same policy of making it the same for all customers might have to apply and that might have a negative effect. I hope of course that this will never happen.

i have considered several times to call in to airtel customer care and ask them to disconnect my connection so that they can forward me to the retention department which might offer me a sweater deal. but i have been avoiding taking that route.

I thought the 1Mbit/s connections were already cheaper than Rs2k anyway...

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the pain of running the app on my machine for 2-3 days consecutively eating away most of the available bandwidth!

anyways. the scripts i have played around does not work properly because flickr api server is designed to time out periodically to i believe hamper mass downloads of accounts!

yahoo has been a bitch not making it easy for flickr pro users to get back what they have uploaded on their network.

flickr api for example is designed to support access to just 500 photos per set!

so essentially i would have to create fresh sets with 500 images in them to make the download solution work.

they block rival services like zooomr for example from mass importing photos so that the users can migrate. i accept that they do not have to. but this is exactly what google has been fixing with their data portability project.

If you were able to download them faster, you might avoid the timeout issue. 500 photos is what, about 1-1.5GB? If we gave you 10Mbit/s you should get that in around 20 minutes.

 

[Sushubh]

hehe. flickr just might label it abuse and kill my connection

 

[techtata]

Paid 2K today for 1mbps Unlimited with a possible Fair Usage Policy, but airtel has been so freaking reliable that it is totally worth it for now.

Hi Admin, Thanks for the reply.

So you are using 1mbps unlimited airtel connection. Can you please tell me the cost per month inclusive of all so called taxes? What is the average download speed you get as per your experience? Thanks

 

[Sushubh]

i pay 2100 for 1mbps UL with IPTV connection. speeds are as expected.

 

[techtata]

Broadband Internet access - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Although various minimum bandwidths have been used in definitions of broadband, ranging up from 64 kbit/s up to 2.0 Mbit/s[1], the 2006 OECD report[2] is typical by defining broadband as having download data transfer rates equal to or faster than 256 kbit/s, while the United States (US) Federal Communications Commission (FCC) as of 2009, defines "Basic Broadband" as data transmission speeds exceeding 768 kilobits per second (Kbps), or 768,000 bits per second, in at least one direction: downstream (from the Internet to the user’s computer) or upstream (from the user’s computer to the Internet).[3] The trend is to raise the threshold of the broadband definition as the marketplace rolls out faster services.

 

[mgcarley]

Broadband Internet access - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Although various minimum bandwidths have been used in definitions of broadband, ranging up from 64 kbit/s up to 2.0 Mbit/s[1], the 2006 OECD report[2] is typical by defining broadband as having download data transfer rates equal to or faster than 256 kbit/s, while the United States (US) Federal Communications Commission (FCC) as of 2009, defines "Basic Broadband" as data transmission speeds exceeding 768 kilobits per second (Kbps), or 768,000 bits per second, in at least one direction: downstream (from the Internet to the user’s computer) or upstream (from the user’s computer to the Internet).[3] The trend is to raise the threshold of the broadband definition as the marketplace rolls out faster services.

I think that's the point of the thread- India is calling out for faster speeds. 256k as a minimum is just not enough anymore.

I attended a seminar about a year ago with people wanting to launch video services in India. How are they supposed to do that if the broadband speed definition is just 256k?

Besides, doesn't India like to think of itself as innovative? If it wants to prove that, it should surely raise the bar past the yanks!

Another reason for doing that is because of that wonderful thing we call outsourcing. India could be considered to be the backbone of the US economy, and deserves a broadband standard to match.