blr_p said:
Where did i say Congress did good deeds ? i never did. I asked what was wrong with them.
I would like to post your comment only in reply “Just bcoz they are not publcised can also very well mean it never happened ” . If there is no good deeds they obvoiusly they have done all bad deeds.
blr_p said:
I've yet to receive any answer to this. you tried to divert the question, Jaymin just ran away as did sa_kiran. So its quite clear to me what the credibility of their position is
Its bcoz we all have to be participate in other Sections too.
blr_p said:
I said they won both elections, isn't that indicative of what the public at large thought in 2004 & 2009.
If they were so bad they should have lost both elections isn't it. Are the voters dumb ? course not they chose the best option like every time. Read that again, BEST OPTION. Got it now.
Voter are neither dumb nor intelligent enough to cast vote brilliantly. Votors cated votes on the good works done by local MLAs and on the fake Innocent Image of MMS, but this isn’t be repeated this time.
blr_p said:
That is the case today, what about 2 yrs from now ? See, i cannot tell whether the mood will be the same or not.
The mood will even strengthen because of the ongoing Scams and Ministers going to Jail.
blr_p said:
Also you need to realise that elections are won in villages not cities.
I don’t agree. Share some facts and figure pls.
blr_p said:
Terms like 'congi dictatorship' cannot be substantiated they are just biased comments.
The main idea is to turn dissent into debate.
Generally speaking try to make statements with some backing instead of on feelings. The backing offered here to date is inadequate. I've already explained its pretty hard to do. Its a losing proposition. The title of this thread is overly ambitious.
If you can make a reasoned argument it doesnt matter whether i like it or not. But the pov can be understood. The idea is to have a REAL debate rathe than some useless chat where anything can be said. There is no value in such.
Its bcoz arguement reveals one’s personality and their vision. And I leant from you only not to mind all these unproductive things and Move On, so why are you eying on these things.
Enough backing had been provided in this thread and Emotions are equally attached with the mind when it comes to vote for any party.
blr_p said:
Not my job to make the point. I did not create this thread nor advocate what it says. My position on this remains neutral and still remain to be convinced further.
Neither is ours to make a particular member of this forum satisfy. And if you wanna know I can create a Poll to show you result whether you are neutral or baised , but that will be a personal pin-pointing and I would like to avoid that.
And Let me remind you, we all are against UPA Govt bcoz of their Scams and incompetancy in handling inflation, terrorism, corruption etc and not against you.
blr_p said:
Just bcoz they are not publcised can also very well mean it never happened. How do you know ? do you work in the newspaper industry ? even if you did its still anecdotal. I think everybody has an interest to show it. Quite frankly i find the idea of govt trying to muzzle the media in this way crazy. Piss off the media and they will kill you. Do it to more media and you will be dead. What is the cost to DNA after posting this article ? NOTHING
DNA isn't wrong what i'm saying is their experience isn't enough to make the more general case. You cannot make the charge on just 10 days of not receving any ads. Somethig is not right, thats all that can be said. i would not draw any more conclusions.
Even if they are new in industry and wanna make themselves sensational, they are publishing reports with proofs. Aaj Tak, Star News were not No. 1 right from Day 1, still they published real news from Day 1 and we believed it. So, why a second thought for DNA ??
blr_p said:
Those happened becaiuse of the PAC & CAG reports. After which everybody jumped on it. Rhetoric will keep the pressure on, that is what politicising these two scams achieves.
I don’t agree. Show me some evidence . Telcos and others are talking abt this rite from the day of Spectrum allocation in case of 2G Scams
blr_p said:
Fact for me is what happens in the court, what the politics says on the street is all self-serving emotions. Listen to it long enough and you end up nowhere, One party says this is what happens the other completely denies it. So who is lying here ? both but not always. And these are professional liars we are dealing with here.
And If we keep on following your ideology, then we will die before the facts are justified in Court.
Life is short and one can’t learn everything with his/her own experiences. They have to learn from others experience too and thats what we all are doing instead of simply following a single source.
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blr_p said:
See, thats the word argue. I dont want to argue. I want to debate.
Few of us including me are not so fluent and perfect in English and I don't think its a English classroom where one should discuss on words like " Argue & Debate ".
blr_p said:
If you have a weak premise then to save face or maybe your ego then you have to argue. Pick strong positions, then we can have some real fun
Even News Channels start a discussion which all the times turn out to be arguement. If they never complain, they lets not complain it here too.
blr_p said:
And there's one other point i'd like to make to you, kid.
congi dictatorship was '75-'77. Which year do we live in ?
History is repeating
