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What info could ID card held - Name, birth date/place, photo, fingerprint, blood group, address, education?Where it could be used - we already have Passport, PAN card, driving license, ration card, voting card. Will ID card replace some/all of these?What would be benefits & loss of having this card?
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warthog
there is simply no benefits.the only benefit is that all your data id on a single readable chip period.
the data which will be kept
are http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multipurpose_National_Identity_Card_(India)
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in essence it would be a centralized database where all your actions are tracked.This goes against the fundamental right to privacy
the data which will be kept
are http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multipurpose_National_Identity_Card_(India)
)
in essence it would be a centralized database where all your actions are tracked.This goes against the fundamental right to privacy
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warthog
i guess its great move .. it may start by 2010 .. but not sure when it will complete ... In other countries ppl are trying to fix the chip inside body as identity and now we just initiated about card ..
what say that was sarcastic.IN US 20 states have signed legislation opposing national id.Thankfully the 10th amendment lets them to secede from the union if the fed is playing not by the book.IN UK there is also opposition.
bible revelations 13
6 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
17 and that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
what say that was sarcastic.IN US 20 states have signed legislation opposing national id.Thankfully the 10th amendment lets them to secede from the union if the fed is playing not by the book.IN UK there is also opposition.
bible revelations 13
6 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
17 and that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
in essence it would be a centralized database where all your actions are tracked.This goes against the fundamental right to privacy
I don't disargee with your points re: privacy & possible abuse via identity theft on the one hand as well as by the governemt on the other, but..
..do we even have such a right in this country ?
The lack of which does not automatically mean we SHOULD accept it, the time will come when this reaches the media and the debates will begin.
It was with some suprise to me that it was passed in the UK, which for a long time i recall was very much against the idea. This happened because public perception about the issue has changed recently, they have seen the utility of those security cameras which played an important part in identifying and helping to catch those asian bombers in london some time back.
This is just an extension of the idea and was not opposed in any significant manner.
The question is how bad is it if the card is stolen, can any tangible harm be done. If this is minimal then the only thing to watch for is the govt. The moment the govt. starts to do anything funny, vote them out in the next election
I don't disargee with your points re: privacy & possible abuse via identity theft on the one hand as well as by the governemt on the other, but..
..do we even have such a right in this country ?
The lack of which does not automatically mean we SHOULD accept it, the time will come when this reaches the media and the debates will begin.
It was with some suprise to me that it was passed in the UK, which for a long time i recall was very much against the idea. This happened because public perception about the issue has changed recently, they have seen the utility of those security cameras which played an important part in identifying and helping to catch those asian bombers in london some time back.
This is just an extension of the idea and was not opposed in any significant manner.
The question is how bad is it if the card is stolen, can any tangible harm be done. If this is minimal then the only thing to watch for is the govt. The moment the govt. starts to do anything funny, vote them out in the next election
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warthog
I don't disargee with your points re: privacy & possible abuse via identity theft on the one hand as well as by the governemt on the other, but..
..do we even have such a right in this country ?
The lack of which does not automatically mean we SHOULD accept it, the time will come when this reaches the media and the debates will begin.
It was with some suprise to me that it was passed in the UK, which for a long time i recall was very much against the idea. This happened because public perception about the issue has changed recently, they have seen the utility of those security cameras which played an important part in identifying and helping to catch those asian bombers in london some time back.
This is just an extension of the idea and was not opposed in any significant manner.
The question is how bad is it if the card is stolen, can any tangible harm be done. If this is minimal then the only thing to watch for is the govt. The moment the govt. starts to do anything funny, vote them out in the next election
lmao those give liberty for security neither deserve freedom nor security.and the parties are the same side of the coin.bjp introduced it and congress implements it.The only thing common iwth india and usa is that we fought for our freedoms.hopefully poice state wont happen in these 2 countries.UK is a police state,they tell kids to spy on parents about garbage,they take your dna for petty crimes.
the recent smoking ban is against personal freedoms.We are moving towards nazi germany
..do we even have such a right in this country ?
The lack of which does not automatically mean we SHOULD accept it, the time will come when this reaches the media and the debates will begin.
It was with some suprise to me that it was passed in the UK, which for a long time i recall was very much against the idea. This happened because public perception about the issue has changed recently, they have seen the utility of those security cameras which played an important part in identifying and helping to catch those asian bombers in london some time back.
This is just an extension of the idea and was not opposed in any significant manner.
The question is how bad is it if the card is stolen, can any tangible harm be done. If this is minimal then the only thing to watch for is the govt. The moment the govt. starts to do anything funny, vote them out in the next election
lmao those give liberty for security neither deserve freedom nor security.and the parties are the same side of the coin.bjp introduced it and congress implements it.The only thing common iwth india and usa is that we fought for our freedoms.hopefully poice state wont happen in these 2 countries.UK is a police state,they tell kids to spy on parents about garbage,they take your dna for petty crimes.
the recent smoking ban is against personal freedoms.We are moving towards nazi germany
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warthog
Passport RFIDs cloned wholesale by $250 eBay auction spree ? The Register
https://youtube.com/watch?v=9isKnDiJNPk&eurl
Using inexpensive off-the-shelf components, an information security expert has built a mobile platform that can clone large numbers of the unique electronic identifiers used in US passport cards and next generation drivers licenses.
The $250 proof-of-concept device - which researcher Chris Paget built in his spare time - operates out of his vehicle and contains everything needed to sniff and then clone RFID, or radio frequency identification, tags. During a recent 20-minute drive in downtown San Francisco, it successfully copied the RFID tags of two passport cards without the knowledge of their owners.
cloning tech already available.HA Ha @ those who think it is safe and secure
laminated paper is secure
https://youtube.com/watch?v=9isKnDiJNPk&eurl
Using inexpensive off-the-shelf components, an information security expert has built a mobile platform that can clone large numbers of the unique electronic identifiers used in US passport cards and next generation drivers licenses.
The $250 proof-of-concept device - which researcher Chris Paget built in his spare time - operates out of his vehicle and contains everything needed to sniff and then clone RFID, or radio frequency identification, tags. During a recent 20-minute drive in downtown San Francisco, it successfully copied the RFID tags of two passport cards without the knowledge of their owners.
cloning tech already available.HA Ha @ those who think it is safe and secure
laminated paper is secure
