about that 123 agreement...

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This would not have happened if the BJP were in power. They would have rammed this through parliament without considering what the other parties were thinking. And the Congress would have supported them.

Funnily enough, that thought struck me too once the news sank in.

I predict BJP victory in the next elections, they started the ball rolling in any case, let them finish it.
 
Good post, goes into the wording of the deal a little more, on the surface a literal reading implies all that's said to abide and assist the US whenever it declares someone is breaking the law. That means we become a very valuable ally, whenever someone in our vicinity needs to be strong armed into doing anything.The short term win is several billion in plant contracts that go exclusively to the US. Those two factors would explain why the Americans have been very keen, if not impatient to complete the deal as soon as possible. Singh is in Moscow atm talking about various deals, military, civil etc. I'm sure the Russians would like to sell us even more reactors than they already have. The hard part with either party has been will the suppliers, the NSG agree to give us any fuel to put in it. So the US comes forward with this sweetner attached. They can somehow make the NSG think we will be trustworthy and deflect any objections the Chinese or others may have. We start in earnest along the road to going nuclear, and its expected to pay off, eventually down the road. It's not clear to me as yet what the fallout if any there will be if we delay on this. Oil prices will be kept high so long as the tension in the middle east continues. Our energy requirements will only continue to rise as time goes on. So there will always be an intl. incentive to get us to go nuclear as it will relieve the pressure on oil prices to a certain extent not to mention reducing carbon emissions.It almost feels like help the US out today and it will not go unnoticed, as will the opposite too i expect :D..what about tomorrow, the intangibles which are not at the negotiating table today and which we have no idea of their worth. How expensive will it be to snub the US ?
 
The blogger has another post on the issue of nuclear energy.

....The Indian defendants in early stages crowed that India can now join the nuclear high table as a ‘Nuclear Weapon’s state’ while simultaneously reaping the benefits of joining the peaceful nuclear commerce. Essentially it meant that without signing the NPT and while retaining the right to further nuclear weaponization, India could now source much needed uranium, which is in short supply domestically, & access cutting edge technology, equipment and components – including all dual use items. However, on careful scrutiny of the agreement the critics found many holes in this façade and it became untenable to continue the pretension that all is well.

Off late the defense of the deal is based on its ability to ensure India’s energy security and thereby to secure the 9% growth story....
Nuclear Deal tests D.I. +Ve.

The deal will help India coz it will be the only country in the world to have secured such an exemption. Swaminathan Aiyer wrote a column on this very issue just as the Hyde Act was being moved through the US congress and senate.
Nuke deal: How to clear roadblocks-Swaminomics-Swaminathan A Aiyar-Columnists-Opinion-The Times of India

A snub is certainly not going to help our case. A country and its political leadership has to show that it can take a decision, stick to it and that when the leadership changes, whatever happens internally, international agreeements are not broken. This is the norm even in the current age of diplomatic amnesia.

I do not see the US as an enemy. We have too many things in common. And to my knowledge, US has never attacked a democratic country. So, all the issues raised - that independent foreign policy will be affected, US can turn off fissile material supply etc. are bogeys at best. US has stood by Israel no matter what the consequences over the last 50 years. An Indo-US relationship too will stand the test of time only if people take the effort to set it up in the first place. How can you talk of a divorce before the marriage?
 
Questions for the Left by DN Ghosh, Leader Article, TOI, Nov 16 2007

the country needs clarifications from the Left on the following counts:

First, why does the Left think that a nuclear deal, which is a bilateral agreement between two countries and which needs the consent of all nuclear suppliers and an international supervising agency, is a camouflage for drawing India in a global strategy intended to serve US interests? Is it that the government of India, in its eagerness to have nuclear sanctions lifted, has made a bargain with the US agreeing to work in tandem with America's state department and Pentagon in its global power game? If the Left thinks that the government has given any such commitment, it must explicitly say so; no government has the right to remain in power if it has in fact entered into any such secret understanding that would jeopardise the country's independence.

Second, China has a similar bilateral agreement with the US (which contains many more conditionalities than the one with India). If the Left thinks that by such an agreement China has been handicapped in pursuing an independent foreign and defence policy, it must say so clearly; if, on the contrary, China has not compromised its independence in any way, then why does the Left think that India will succumb to US pressure?

Third, the Left would cry wolf when India approached multilateral agencies for temporary financial relief. The government of the day was severely criticised on the ground that, with imperialist America dominating these institutions, India would be making herself a victim to America's capitalist designs and lose her freedom in pursuing economic policies that are in her interest. Nothing of that sort has happened; India has been crafting and designing her policies that strike a balance between what is required to be done in a globally interdependent world and the dictates and compulsions of her own interests. What makes the Left think that we would surrender our sovereignty in the future?

Fourth, on the strength of a similar deal, China has drawn up an ambitious plan to increase the nuclear component of power generation and, as current reports show, is scouting aggressively all over the globe for sourcing and securing supplies of nuclear fuel. This is exactly what India needs to do: diversify sources of power generation. China will continue exploiting her initial advantage while we remain a laggard, eroding fast even our existing indigenous resource. No country of India's size and potential can view this with complacency.

Finally, one has to take note of the string of insinuations as to the real game plan of the Left. The long-term consequences of backing out of the deal are deeply worrying; it is bound to put India, permanently, as many commentators have argued, in a position of comparative disadvantage vis-a-vis China. These do not seem to concern the Left: in no case should India be allowed to do anything that, in their perception, harms China, for in the party primer on geopolitics, the interests of China are primary and those of India secondary.
 
Yes. Read it this morning. Very pertinent points for which the Left has no answers. The Left has no bounds as far as hypocrisy and irrationality goes.
 
If i read this right... :)

...then this is the plan.

The Americans have extended the deadline to Jul of this year. That is the very latest this deal can be operationalised, if at all.

Congress goes ahead (at the very last minute), they have spent far too much already to back out.

Left withdraws support, elections required, which at the earliest can only happen 6 months after.

it means an earlier election but, if Congress has the balls for it, then best of luck :thumbsup:
 
Things are not looking too good with the Left playing hardball. And the Congress has to consider not only its own election fortunes, but also allies like Laloo and Karunanidhi who are caught in their own problems at the state level. Will it have the gumption to go for elections without knowing for sure what states like Rajasthan and MP are thinking irrespective of whether it really affects the outcome of the general elections?
 
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