HTML5, <audio> and <video> tags

[Sushubh]

bad news for all open source lovers i guess...

[whatwg] Codecs for and

After an inordinate amount of discussions, both in public and privately,
on the situation regarding codecs for and in HTML5, I have
reluctantly come to the conclusion that there is no suitable codec that
all vendors are willing to implement and ship.

I have therefore removed the two subsections in the HTML5 spec in which
codecs would have been required, and have instead left the matter
undefined, as has in the past been done with other features like and
image formats, and plugin APIs, or Web fonts and font formats.

 

[amish]

so what does mozilla do when it says it supports audio and video tags? supports ogg ONLY?

 

[Sushubh]

well the post is related to w3c specifications. every browser maker is free to pick his own standards. like they do already. mozilla prefers OGG. Apple prefers H.264 i think. google supports both but the open source version can only do OGG. opera can support both but OGG is cheaper and safer option. microsoft says well they say nothing. we say to microsoft :readtherules:googel does not also like ogg because it does not suit their youtube platform (if it is moved to html5 mode in the future).

 

[amish]

I think OGG is not preferred because it doesnt compress data much when compared to other avaliable options (like mp4 or flv)

 

[Sushubh]

itself supports multiple sources, so there's no need for
JavaScript to do this. But it does mean we end up with exactly the
situation we're in now, with different implementations supporting
different codecs and the spec not having any power over this.

so it might not be a big deal in the end

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yeap. youtube needs better compression while retaining quality and flash does well in that department.

so the question is. if silverlight improves on that front would google shift to silverlight?

 

[amish]

silverlight = microsoft = may not be easily supported on all platforms/browsersgoogle wont take chance!

 

[Sushubh]

silverlight is on windows and macs.

and till recently adobe was not really doing much about flash on linux. only now we have a good adobe flash support on linux.

plus moonlight project is working on silverlight for linux. so that is not a big deal.

anyways, google has always wanted to go html5 for videos i think. ..

how many of you have seen this youtube video

YouTube HTML5 Demo

 

[manu1991]

http://thevideobay.org/ uses only HTML5

 

[Sushubh]

heh. that's why it could take years before it could be launched for public consumption.No IE support. Opera 10 does not support it yet. Google Chrome does it. Firefox 3.5 does it. Not sure about Safari though it should do it too.

 

[Sushubh]

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