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mgcarley
Founder, Hayai Broadband
hi,
Any one know when will the broadband prices/rates will be slashed as our mobile operator do? Is it possible this year or next year 2011?
Depends where you live and who the competitors are
Any one know when will the broadband prices/rates will be slashed as our mobile operator do? Is it possible this year or next year 2011?
Depends where you live and who the competitors are
mgcarley
Founder, Hayai Broadband
Fire in the mountain....RUN! RUN! RUN!
Broadband prices seem to keep on reducing....but not as quickly as we hoped. As Mr Carley stated before, its cause of the damn NIXI.
Well... Not entirely the fault of NIXI... Just the pricing model that no other IX in the world seems to follow.
Not only do I pay 6 lakhs per year just for a gigabit port, but I also have to pay a per GB price as determined by a convoluted formula. Just make it 60 lakhs (still uber expensive by world standards, but I can deal with it) but for petes sake, get rid of the per gb pricing model.
In fact, make it even that "low" and I'll buy 4 or more NIXI ports! (at Rs25 per gb, that could cost me nearly 4cr a year, worst case scenario).
To put it another way, Rs25 per GB is anything from 25 to 100% more than I pay for a gigabyte to Singapore or the USA (depending on the route), so probably 200% more than the big boys get their international bandwidth at...
If my bandwidth averaged out to even rs3 or rs4 per gb (both international and nixi traffic), we'd be offering 100mbit/s flat rate at like rs4000 a month - maybe less. But for now they have to be closer to 10k.
Broadband prices seem to keep on reducing....but not as quickly as we hoped. As Mr Carley stated before, its cause of the damn NIXI.
Well... Not entirely the fault of NIXI... Just the pricing model that no other IX in the world seems to follow.
Not only do I pay 6 lakhs per year just for a gigabit port, but I also have to pay a per GB price as determined by a convoluted formula. Just make it 60 lakhs (still uber expensive by world standards, but I can deal with it) but for petes sake, get rid of the per gb pricing model.
In fact, make it even that "low" and I'll buy 4 or more NIXI ports! (at Rs25 per gb, that could cost me nearly 4cr a year, worst case scenario).
To put it another way, Rs25 per GB is anything from 25 to 100% more than I pay for a gigabyte to Singapore or the USA (depending on the route), so probably 200% more than the big boys get their international bandwidth at...
If my bandwidth averaged out to even rs3 or rs4 per gb (both international and nixi traffic), we'd be offering 100mbit/s flat rate at like rs4000 a month - maybe less. But for now they have to be closer to 10k.
Well... Not entirely the fault of NIXI... Just the pricing model that no other IX in the world seems to follow.
Not only do I pay 6 lakhs per year just for a gigabit port, but I also have to pay a per GB price as determined by a convoluted formula. Just make it 60 lakhs (still uber expensive by world standards, but I can deal with it) but for petes sake, get rid of the per gb pricing model.
In fact, make it even that "low" and I'll buy 4 or more NIXI ports! (at Rs25 per gb, that could cost me nearly 4cr a year, worst case scenario).
To put it another way, Rs25 per GB is anything from 25 to 100% more than I pay for a gigabyte to Singapore or the USA (depending on the route), so probably 200% more than the big boys get their international bandwidth at...
If my bandwidth averaged out to even rs3 or rs4 per gb (both international and nixi traffic), we'd be offering 100mbit/s flat rate at like rs4000 a month - maybe less. But for now they have to be closer to 10k.
Very informative Mr. Mgcarley. Who is responsible for the pricing in India, and why are they so high then?
Not only do I pay 6 lakhs per year just for a gigabit port, but I also have to pay a per GB price as determined by a convoluted formula. Just make it 60 lakhs (still uber expensive by world standards, but I can deal with it) but for petes sake, get rid of the per gb pricing model.
In fact, make it even that "low" and I'll buy 4 or more NIXI ports! (at Rs25 per gb, that could cost me nearly 4cr a year, worst case scenario).
To put it another way, Rs25 per GB is anything from 25 to 100% more than I pay for a gigabyte to Singapore or the USA (depending on the route), so probably 200% more than the big boys get their international bandwidth at...
If my bandwidth averaged out to even rs3 or rs4 per gb (both international and nixi traffic), we'd be offering 100mbit/s flat rate at like rs4000 a month - maybe less. But for now they have to be closer to 10k.
Very informative Mr. Mgcarley. Who is responsible for the pricing in India, and why are they so high then?
mgcarley
Founder, Hayai Broadband
Very informative Mr. Mgcarley. Who is responsible for the pricing in India, and why are they so high then?
No one entity is responsible per se... Tata, Bharti and Reliance own all 7 of the cables that go in and out of India (up from 5 last year and 4 in 2008... and actually Tata and Bharti are both in consortiums, but that's beyond the point):
[*]i2i - Bharti
[*]SE-ME-WE3: Tata
[*]SE-ME-WE4: Bharti & Tata
[*]FLAG/SAFE - Reliance
[*]SEACOM: Tata
[*]EIG: Bharti
[*]I-ME-WE: Bharti
[/list]
Being that ownership of said cables is private, they can charge what they like. Oh, and Tata/VSNL is also a pretty big culprit cause irrespective of the cable system in use, they own the rights to all the landing stations, so this doesn't help.
Even though prices fell by some 60% between 2006 and 2008, and further in 2009, they merely fell from the exosphere to the mesosphere: they're still very high, and for a bandwidth hungry country (and one that's supposed to be some kind of tech-Mecca), this is not good.
Hopefully the downward trend in pricing continues through 2010 with even more international capacity becoming available and thus in some weird way more competition (as they can no longer bitch about lack of international capacity, even though this hasn't be a problem for about 5 years anyway).
As far as the NIXI pricing, this is probably also a result of the consortium. Although my traffic might interchange with another ISP at NIXI, my Rs25 actually goes to the other ISP, as NIXI itself is supposed to be non-profit - it's a man-in-the-middle more than anything else.
The other thing to take in to account is the price of the local loop. It can be astronomical in some places. Not for MTNL or BSNL, I'm sure, but for private players definitely. Plus many ISPs pay off cable operators a slice of revenue. Plus to have an ISP license we have to send something like 8% of our revenue to the DoT. Everyone wants their share, and the customer suffers for it with shoddy service, slow speeds and high prices.
No one entity is responsible per se... Tata, Bharti and Reliance own all 7 of the cables that go in and out of India (up from 5 last year and 4 in 2008... and actually Tata and Bharti are both in consortiums, but that's beyond the point):
[*]i2i - Bharti
[*]SE-ME-WE3: Tata
[*]SE-ME-WE4: Bharti & Tata
[*]FLAG/SAFE - Reliance
[*]SEACOM: Tata
[*]EIG: Bharti
[*]I-ME-WE: Bharti
[/list]
Being that ownership of said cables is private, they can charge what they like. Oh, and Tata/VSNL is also a pretty big culprit cause irrespective of the cable system in use, they own the rights to all the landing stations, so this doesn't help.
Even though prices fell by some 60% between 2006 and 2008, and further in 2009, they merely fell from the exosphere to the mesosphere: they're still very high, and for a bandwidth hungry country (and one that's supposed to be some kind of tech-Mecca), this is not good.
Hopefully the downward trend in pricing continues through 2010 with even more international capacity becoming available and thus in some weird way more competition (as they can no longer bitch about lack of international capacity, even though this hasn't be a problem for about 5 years anyway).
As far as the NIXI pricing, this is probably also a result of the consortium. Although my traffic might interchange with another ISP at NIXI, my Rs25 actually goes to the other ISP, as NIXI itself is supposed to be non-profit - it's a man-in-the-middle more than anything else.
The other thing to take in to account is the price of the local loop. It can be astronomical in some places. Not for MTNL or BSNL, I'm sure, but for private players definitely. Plus many ISPs pay off cable operators a slice of revenue. Plus to have an ISP license we have to send something like 8% of our revenue to the DoT. Everyone wants their share, and the customer suffers for it with shoddy service, slow speeds and high prices.
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BD prices will decline soon Hayai Broadband is coming to the rescue :wewin:
The long 5yrs wait seems to be getting over.
---------- Post added at 02:35 AM ---------- Previous post was at 02:33 AM ----------
hi,
Any one know when will the broadband prices/rates will be slashed as our mobile operator do? Is it possible this year or next year 2011?
btw what's with the fake topic headline at-least put it in the write manner if u asking question nd nt actually declaring something as per ur headline.
thx
The long 5yrs wait seems to be getting over.
---------- Post added at 02:35 AM ---------- Previous post was at 02:33 AM ----------
hi,
Any one know when will the broadband prices/rates will be slashed as our mobile operator do? Is it possible this year or next year 2011?
btw what's with the fake topic headline at-least put it in the write manner if u asking question nd nt actually declaring something as per ur headline.
thx
mgcarley
Founder, Hayai Broadband
BD prices will decline soon Hayai Broadband is coming to the rescue :wewin:
The long 5yrs wait seems to be getting over.
Fingers crossed yar... we have a lot of support in India, but I have to physically re-enter the country. My goal is before end April; all going well.
The long 5yrs wait seems to be getting over.
Fingers crossed yar... we have a lot of support in India, but I have to physically re-enter the country. My goal is before end April; all going well.
