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Ok, before I say anything, I must tell you that I dont have any proof and I am just speculating.

BUT FRAUD IS HIGHLY LIKELY!! REASONS below!!

Following are my assumptions:

From Google - About 14000 trains run daily.
Lets consider just half of it. i.e. 7000 trains
Assuming 200 tatkal seats per day on average (shud be more on long distance trains)
Assuming agents charge 100Rs extra for tatkal tickets (may be more)

so that makes 28 cr per day = Fraud of Rs.10220 crore a year

Note that I am trying to GIVE BENEFIT OF DOUBT to railway in my calculations, by down scaling the figures heavily because I do not have enough data. Otherwise FRAUD cud be even larger.

So why am I calling it a fraud?

Ok from last 3-4days I am trying to book tatkal tickets online.

Before clock ticks 7:58AM. IRCTC site runs just fine without any problem. It gives instant responses. No sooner the clock ticks 7:59AM. It starts giving "service unavailable". Railway claims that server comes under huge load.... ok I agree.. but, read ahead.

I keep refreshing page for some time and manage to login at around 8:04 or 8:05AM

And to my horror, tatkal tickets are almost sold!! You still hope that you stand a chance to book the ticket, but site just WONT let you book. When you click BOOK, it just wont do anything for minutes, by the time your payment process is over, you end up having WAITLIST ticket in hand.

The points to note here are:

Why does it give "service unavailable" only to end users like us? How come others (read agents) be able to book tickets so rapidly?

May be they have bots doing the job. I dont mind bots doing the job, but look at this mathematically, below.

There wud be 14 lakhs tatkal tickets (based on my above assumption). And other 5 lakh tatkal waitlist tickets (assuming 75 per train). So railway is able to sell almost 19 lakh tickets in 30-40 minutes. (from 8AM to 8:40AM). Now assuming that 50% tickets get sold in first 10 minutes.

So railway servers are capable of selling almost 10 lakh tickets in 10 minutes. That is huge capacity of the servers and very impressive figure.

But now I dont think there wud be more than 1000 persons like me who are trying to book tickets online. Each person can buy tickets for maximum 6 persons at a time.

Which means persons like me ADD ADDITIONAL LOAD of 6000 tickets.
(Note that I am considering agents running at half capacity and we running at full capacity - which actually shud be reverse)

So if railway is able to PROCESS 10 LAKHS tickets FOR AGENTS in 10 minutes, how does our 6000 tickets, OVERLOAD a server??

How come agents are able to book 10 lakh tickets as if they are not feeling ANY LOAD on the SERVER and we keep getting "service unavailable" message?

Okay even if IRCTC server gets overloaded, why have they kept one single server (single IP 202.93.154.28)? Why are they not upgrading the network and server capacity when problem is known? Why ignorance to normal customers?

Why agents are given priority when railway's principle is first come first serve?

Is someone getting under table cut for all this? Say, 0.5%, of 10000 crore fraud wud be 500 crore rupees! That's a big amount with such a small percent! Now I understand why railway is turning blind eye to this issue.

Workarounds I tried to SPEED up my booking:

Obvious thing I tried to do is login before 7:58AM and keep everything ready.
But IRCTC has FOUND WAYS to block this too!!
If you login before, 8AM, and then try to book ticket, even after 8:02AM, it will keep saying you that "I cant book before 8AM" (something like that)

So then I have to logout and relogin, but oh well, if u logout then u shud forget about being able to relogin in before 80% of tickets are sold to agents.

I further tried to work AROUND that too by selecting previous days listing. i.e. if i want to book tickets for 20th, i actually select date as 19th. After that, IRCTC will show you available tickets for next 5 days as well.

And what I find? Availability count for 20th keeps on reducing (i.e. agents are able to book) but it wont show me "BOOK" link next to it... unless I completely LOGOUT and relogin.(i.e. initiate my session after 8AM). And now if I repeat same process again, i.e. select 19 as date, it will start showing me BOOK option for 20th too. But then it will be TOO LATE to book anyway.

THESE ALL IS CLEARLY DONE SO THAT END USER LIKE ME CAN NOT SHOW HIS SMARTNESS and BOOK TICKETS WHICH HE HAS RIGHT OF BOOKING! IRCTC makes sure that user is completely HANDICAPPED!

Add to this, the IRCTC site is made to have worst USER INTERFACE.

You cant go back OR forward, if you do that, ur session expires!
So if u make a mistake in name or age...you have no option but re-do everything from scratch as you cant go back and make changes.

Will Mamta Banerjee wakeup and look in to this? She has done good thing by reducing number of days for tatkal from 5 days to 2 days and allowing travel fee to pay, only for traveled distance and not full distance. So why cant she look into this?
 
Seems like a serious Fraud and I totally agree with all the points mentioned above.

Well I had seen somewhere that someone was able to see that the tickets were booked even before the Tatkal window had opened. Sorry I dont have the link with me.

I have even tried to book the ticket from other website makemytrip & yatra, But that doesnt help either.

Last year during diwali, I had managed to book the ticket @ 8:04 and I had got WL82, Now in 4 minutes the totally 251 tickets under tatkal quota & 81 WL tickets before me were booked? Thats impressive & something fishy ! And here another thing to notice is when the chart was prepared, my WL was 7, So ideally 74 tickets were cancelled before me?

If you also look for the Tatkal quota in trains running in May/June, You would see that the Railway authorities have increased the Tatkal quota in most of the trains, So it means that the people who book in 90 days in advance have less seats & the government is earning more in Tatkal quota (200 rupee per ticket).

Thats totally unfair for the people who plan there vacations well in advance.

---------- Post added at 10:56 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:41 AM ----------

Look at this, Under General SL quota in May, the tickets are 280 (Suppose people have not booked the tickets yet) But same the 2nd picture is of Tatkal quota, There are 280 seats. Why does IR have to give 280 tickets under Tatkal quota?
 
Waiting list in that train was around was around 200 but I was able to book one in Tatkal. No rocket science involved. You just have to be a little smarter.
 
Its not about smarter, Its about your luck & I have also managed to book the tickets in Tatkal in the past.
 
Yes, its abt luck.... read my full post above.. i tried to be smarter too... but railways have just blocked the ways, unethically.It also depends on where u r going.. the place i was booking for.. from last 3-4days, it gets SOLD within 4 mins i.e. by 8:04AM...and it wud definitely require rocket science for normal user to finish all that in just 2 mins! i.e. to login, to fill in all data (4 users), go to payment gateway and pay... and do all that when half of the time server keeps giving "service unavailable" message, even after u log in.
 
i have heard horrors about booking online tickets. it's pretty much like a videogame. sucks that you cannot have a system like you have for airline tickets. what a freaking shame. one of the largest companies in the world and they cannot provide an easy online system to book tickets.
 
I had similar troubles and did manage to get a booking once but in my urgency I entered my CC information wrong :(Eventually had to pay an agent, cannot help it, we live in a crooked country.I heard that when booking via mobile, the servers are different and that usually succeeds, not sure though.Also there is a quick book in irctc, that should typically be used when booking tatkal.
 
Okay even if IRCTC server gets overloaded, why have they kept one single server (single IP 202.93.154.28)? Why are they not upgrading the network and server capacity when problem is known? Why ignorance to normal customers?

THESE ALL IS CLEARLY DONE SO THAT END USER LIKE ME CAN NOT SHOW HIS SMARTNESS and BOOK TICKETS WHICH HE HAS RIGHT OF BOOKING! IRCTC makes sure that user is completely HANDICAPPED!

Will Mamta Banerjee wakeup and look in to this? She has done good thing by reducing number of days for tatkal from 5 days to 2 days and allowing travel fee to pay, only for traveled distance and not full distance. So why cant she look into this?

There must be a lot of servers behind the web server, hence you see a single IP. They must be having a rack full of database servers, a few mail servers, DNS servers and a few load balancing servers. But all this is brought together in what you see as a single IP.

Now your next question is why people in responsible positions are looking the other way when this robbery is taking place in the broad daylight? Well the answer is very simple. The proceeds of the loot are distributed from the very low level employees to the very top officers and politicians. So they look the other way. Didn't you see our prime minister on TV a few days ago saying that he can't stop the loot by his cabinet ministers because they are coalition partners? Our railway minister is one such incompetent coalition partner in power.

Last year (Aug 2010) a ticket for Delhi to Amritsar on Shatbdi was being sold at a premium of Rs 800+ by travel agents who have shops in front of the New Delhi railway station. I couldn't get the tickets online in tatkal, so inquired with agents. A ticket which normally costs around Rs 460 was being sold at Rs 1300. Needless to say, sometime traveling by car is cheaper.
 
You cant load balance with single IP because then single ROUTER in between will get completely loaded.Load balance wud be better achieved with multiple IPs and round robin DNS. but well they dont want to do that else they wud have done it long back.
 
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