Lighting Up the Last Mile: Fibre Optics are the Way Forward

[mgcarley]

Oh right, when/if Hayai gets implemented is another story though.

(I crack myself up, hyuk!)

In some ways this is true - Hayai is dependant on the government. Even Aksh, Radius and Tulip are sitting around waiting half the time when it comes to doing certain things.

 

[devx101]

In some ways this is true - Hayai is dependant on the government. Even Aksh, Radius and Tulip are sitting around waiting half the time when it comes to doing certain things.
They are waiting for what?

 

[mgcarley]

They are waiting for what?

Nothing in particular, it's a generalization.

I seem to remember reading something recently out of the hundreds of things I read every week relating to one of the companies (I think it was Tulip) was waiting for some approval from the state of Andhra Pradesh... or maybe it was Madhya Pradesh... I don't know. Anyway... I would have to go back through what I've read to find the link - if I do find it, I'll post it, otherwise consider this information hearsay.

 

[devx101]

Nothing in particular, it's a generalization.

I seem to remember reading something recently out of the hundreds of things I read every week relating to one of the companies (I think it was Tulip) was waiting for some approval from the state of Andhra Pradesh... or maybe it was Madhya Pradesh... I don't know. Anyway... I would have to go back through what I've read to find the link - if I do find it, I'll post it, otherwise consider this information hearsay.

Do you really think companies like Radius are ready for pan India fiber leasing without any govt. support.
and in the article they said they are connecting some 10-12 odd cities in the next years, is this an indication of other players coming to FTTH space?
I mean they are definitely laying bcoz somebody has accepted their business model.

 

[mgcarley]

Do you really think companies like Radius are ready for pan India fiber leasing without any govt. support.
and in the article they said they are connecting some 10-12 odd cities in the next years, is this an indication of other players coming to FTTH space?
I mean they are definitely laying bcoz somebody has accepted their business model.

I didn't say they're not ready to roll out, but the point is that everyone is facing delays at some point or another.

And Laying Fiber is one thing, having services is another - they even have different licenses. There is plenty of backbone fiber all over the place - that's not a problem - there's even a glut of companies to choose from.

However Radius is finally looking to solve the last-mile gap (as are we) in some cities. Probably not Mumbai but certainly elsewhere. In the places they're rolling out, if their infrastructure proves worthy and if the terms are suitable, Hayai might even lease from them - either as a stop-gap or simply to speed up the process of rolling out services, however I should point out that, from what I can gather Radius is NOT a service provider, just an infrastructure provider.

Even so, of course there are other providers coming in to the FTTH space. The only issue is that if BSNL is any indication, the model is still going to be such that the speeds will be low and the prices will be high.

Its really bad that the ISP's have not kicked out copper and brought Fiber to home.

My flat (in UAE) is already having fiber & surfing even with 256 kbps connection is fast, all pages load in seconds.

I'll post a speed test & ping test once i get back.

Yup, we know. We're sick of hearing about the UAE... TII, FFS!!

 

[mgcarley]

Ok as u wish i won't come again to this HAYAI thread, as i know u go in your own way!!

Better i put in ignore list so atleast i would know that u r happy with your own hayai, and hate other isp's such as RELIANCE mostly.
Bye

u won't c me again

ADDED to ignore list...............sucessfully!!

This isn't a Hayai thread. I don't hate other ISPs - not even Reliance, although I do disagree with many policies and things like that from other ISPs... I think they could do better when it comes to services, quality and support. I might hasten to suggest that you hate Reliance since you feel the need to steal from them.

On the other hand, I contribute to the help sectons of other providers, so that could hardly be described as hatred.

Besides, Reliance inspired me to start Hayai in the first place, so in reality I should thank them.

I'm just saying what everyone else is thinking, so get over yourself.

 

[devx101]

Ok as u wish i won't come again to this HAYAI thread, as i know u go in your own way!!

Better i put in ignore list so atleast i would know that u r happy with your own hayai, and hate other isp's such as RELIANCE mostly.
Bye

u won't c me again

ADDED to ignore list...............sucessfully!!

Man the main problem with u is the repeated use of some names.
Too much bragging is not good, u need counseling.

 

[devx101]

I didn't say they're not ready to roll out, but the point is that everyone is facing delays at some point or another.

And Laying Fiber is one thing, having services is another - they even have different licenses. There is plenty of backbone fiber all over the place - that's not a problem - there's even a glut of companies to choose from.

However Radius is finally looking to solve the last-mile gap (as are we) in some cities. Probably not Mumbai but certainly elsewhere. In the places they're rolling out, if their infrastructure proves worthy and if the terms are suitable, Hayai might even lease from them - either as a stop-gap or simply to speed up the process of rolling out services, however I should point out that, from what I can gather Radius is NOT a service provider, just an infrastructure provider.

Even so, of course there are other providers coming in to the FTTH space. The only issue is that if BSNL is any indication, the model is still going to be such that the speeds will be low and the prices will be high.

It's an IP1 license for infrastructure laying.

Well BSNL's model is horribly flawed right from their tendering process to the plans.
The main problem with BSNL is that it needs to offer triple play for a viable business model in tighter integrity...aksh i control IPTV is nothing sort of a disaster at present.
Though it might never be successful i think.

 

[mgcarley]

It's an IP1 license for infrastructure laying.

Yes, I know... we're also holders of that license as well.

But they still need various permissions from local authorities to lay fibre, whether they like it or not (and the Telegraph Act of 1885 which grants telecoms RoW usually seems to be ignored because the local authorities want their revenue source!).

Well BSNL's model is horribly flawed right from their tendering process to the plans.
The main problem with BSNL is that it needs to offer triple play for a viable business model in tighter integrity...aksh i control IPTV is nothing sort of a disaster at present.
Though it might never be successful i think.

Aksh also does IPTV for MTNL as well... having not used it I can't say if it's good or not, but every service has it's quirks. IPTV if done properly can be brilliant - I use it here in NZ on my computer (which although not IPTV in the same sense as through a normal TV and set-top box, is still IPTV) and for the few channels that are currently operational, it works fabulously.

 

[Jonas]

I was watching Australia Network and they were discussing about India.I remember them saying, India is a vast country... It is quite a challenging task for any telecom company to cover the entire country , even for teh Government itself. This is one reason wireless networking is booming in India.As a matter of fact people are already leaning towards 3G and assuming it as a broadband alternative.But, is it possible for wireless networking to actually take place of wired broadband in India? was just thinking.. erm sorry for going off topic.