Super Confused, Wifi Broadband users, help me understand

[ghpk]

thanks, seems "Like mind think likewise"
I was about to search for it, as its a router I can risk with no damage to my work
Will never go Back to BSNL as its like marrying a Lineman, (in my area every morning you have to hunt for him to restore one or other issue)
I am sure this thread is going to be a popular one, if I am able to MOD either of them anyway to work with WISP.
Cannot find anything about "SL2_141" trying possibilities

Edit @ 5:40AM
updated TP-Link Mr3420 to [ tl-mr3420 - build 19327 - 20120606]
its superb firmware, USB modem with Aircel SIM works fine, Also my no-ip based ddns service is working fine so no problem
with this setup.
however WDS is giving problems connecting.
I am exhausted by now, and will research more once I wake up in afternoon.
Anyway if you find any info about "SL2_141" bsnl one let me know, I found some info but I don't have serial cable to modify it.

 

[rj27]

Okay mate, here are a couple of observation in your scenario.
1- You'll not be able to configure the MR3420 using a WDS bridge, because from the description of your connection it is clear that your WISP is running a Ubiquiti Access Point (in AP mode) and would need a second client acting as a client/station not a bridge. Hence unable to bridge the connection. This configuration is understandable since he is running a ISP with mutliple user 0access points. So this leads to the requirement of an equipment acting as a client/station.
a) Now, your router MR3420 is V2 for which DD-WRT is not available (only for v1 available).
Openwrt support is there but not sure if this will be able to achieve the purpose of acting as a WISP client and re-broadcast signal. May not be worth it.
b)The Nokia Siemens SL2 _141 has got openwrt support but through a workaround of editing the device serial number and all which will also warrant the need of having the serial cable which you don't have to modify it. So not worth investing time.
This leads to looking for WISP CPE options. You have linked to the Digisol DG-BR4000N/E which has listed WISP function. Do check its product manual to be sure how this functionality works in this router. Apart from this there is one more aphrehension the above router has a single 3dBi antenna while the MR3420 has got 2x5dBi antenna.
Looking from the screenshot on the previous page the site survey on the MR3420 shows a signal strength varying nearly 20-25 which is good enough for a 512-1or2 mbps connection 4 mbps at max. But this also indicates the low capacity given the short distance.
Since you are looking to invest money seeing various options I'd have to suggest you to do invest in the outdoor cpe. Since your WISP is running his Access Point on Ubiquiti Hardware so he would have most probably be proving Ubiquiti Nanostation Loco M2. Do enquire about it if its this product he is providing. Now question comes that is it worth investing 3000 rs for this. Answer to this is it depends on whether is it the old b/g capable unit or the new b/g/n unit. Because if it is n capable then it's worth it but the g capable should be priced less.But yes it's one of the best wireless equipment for this purpose.
For this device there is no need for pole mounting for such short distance only placing near window facing towards AP would provide a link capable of delivering 15-20 mbps line which near about max capacity. You can look out for this device if can find it cheaper online. It can be used with any other WISP providing services within 5-8 kms of range. You can also explore other device option too but in my opinion this will be kind of good choice for long term for a stable wireless link.
Keep posted further.

 

[ghpk]

thanks again buddy for your time,
my WISP needs me to open a login page using a IP Address and then login manually, once this is done, internet works
and I need to keep that tab open too IIRC.
my MR3420 is Version:1 and I already installed DD-wrt firmware, however WDS is not working, don't know why.
Signal strength is working better on Laptop's inbuilt WI-FI than what router is showing, however I do have a spare external Antenna which I'll fix on
roof and attach to this router later today.
as I am yet to see the my WISP CPE, which is just a wireless AP, I think it would also need browser to login.
I not sure if modding the Nokia-Siemens would allow me to bridge this connection but I am looking for serial cable possibilities today.
Edit: update at 3P.M.
Edited my Router default gateway to match settings of what DNS server my WISP is running,
this way I just need to Switch my Laptop from My Local Router based SSID to WISP SSID and I should be able to logon there.
Opened the NS SL2_141 and found the board is almost the same but not exactly the same as mentioned on DD-WRT boards, will be posting pic there to further look into it, however as I've not have it dismantled, I am going to replace a L.E.D. from green to White (D.I.Y itch)
re-read your post and you are absolutely correct about my ISP, he's using "ubiquiti" equipment on 802.11b radio type.
https://imgur.com/vKDduZF
if possible please suggest which CPE would be compatible.
I appreciate your time and knowledge you've shared here.

 

[rj27]

So are you to able to connect through the ddwrt firmware. It should work in the repeater/repeater bridge mode given that you have configured all the details in the router mathcing to your ISP like the SSID and wireless channel/ mode, static wan IP address and default gateway address etc.Then using the same ip deatils in the laptop and connecting to the SSID of your router connection should work.
Today I was able to make my device work in the Wireless router mode using the similar bridge functionality as in your TP-Link router. Earlier it was running in the WISP client mode and was not broadcasting signal. But now it's able to act as a bridge broadcasting signal and also feeding the DSL 2750u router connected on the lan port. Only change needed after configuring it in bridge mode was that my laptop needs to be configured with the IP provided by the WISP instead of the local 192.168.1.x range.
As for the compatible CPE any device with the dedicated WISP client mode would be a breeze to setup compared to achieve the bridging with other routers. If you are able to find something in the range of less than 1500-1600 then, go for it else if your budget is reaching near 2000 or more than you should check if your ISP is providing the Ubiquiti Nanostation Loco M2. If yes go for it worth the extra money for the kind of performance if offers compared to standard routers.

 

[ghpk]

I was able to use router with USB modem and change DNS IP rangeand update all my devices to use the new range cause the wisp gave house number as IP.its like 172.150.0.2xxI even configured my CCTV system for remote access with new IP range.router is certainly showing improvements.earlier even in same room I was getting -45-50dbi and after dd-wrt firmware it reaches -30 (100% strength) I've not yet tried using router to bridge with the wisp connection.I tried but left it after a hour due to some work.while I was trying to get it to work my ssid was getting changed to what my wisp has later I discovered its normal.currently away will check again in few hour.I tried to get CPE name from wisp guy but as usual he didn't picked up calls through out the day. there's one CPE from TP-Link which even goes beyond most antenna with 15+ km range without parabolic dish etc.its Rs.3000+ at Flipkart.while wisp compatible AP starts Rs. 1200will buy which can be extended so I may be able to pick Tikona which is 4 km away but doesn't wants to install their radio in my area.

 

[ghpk]

hi,
while I still need to put my WISP connection through a Router and keeping my Aircel 3G separate,
yesterday my WISP guy gave me a CPE Antenna to check.
So basically is a AP, which connects you to WISP network without the need of complex configuration.
Below are the pics of this WISP CPE, and can you please guess what brand it would be,
cause there's no name on the plastic box or PCB, all i can see its based on realtek chip.
and how much does it costs ???
http://postimg.org/image/ysx75y5ob/

http://postimg.org/image/8zxc9l7i3/

http://postimg.org/image/f9slwl6wr/

http://postimg.org/image/x2e64go57/

 

[AgentX]

I'm not sure of the exact brand of the product you quoted, but here's a similar one which I have tried before :http://www.tp-link.in/products/?categoryid=216I've also tried Ubiquity's NanoBridge as well as NanoStation (both for WISP & similar setups). TP-Link is cheaper than Ubiquity.

 

[ghpk]

Thanks AgentX,
I know TL-WA5210G, is one of the best, but its over 3K and the one I posted are provided by ISP at Rs.3000/- which includes installation, blah blah blah
WISP guy said this device costs him between 2500-2800 usually.But as using this you still remain WIRED(if you don't already have a Wireless Router) and the LAN Goes to your PC/Laptop/Existing Router It looks a waste to me.
as my earlier post, a wisp compatible AP starts Rs. 1200/- which will Link you to your WISP and allow you to access the same on WI-FI provided by the
Digisol WISP AP.
The AP i posted certainly doesn't looks worth 3K, and if one has budget and existing Wi-FI Setup, TP-Link 5210 is the way to.
hunt continues.

 

[AgentX]

You don't have to keep the "Outdoor AP" as your only source of wired connectivity. Patch this through to your local router and spread over the connection via your own local WiFi. Any "WAN" router will work fine.The exact setup depends on your WISP and how they bridge connections. Previously, my WISP used to run a shared IP block (which is through the Outdoor AP) which will just keep connection active with the WISP tower. This will be shared to my local network via another router downstairs.I remember my WISP was using a TP-Link standard wifi router (900 something) with an outdoor casing which was blue colored. If you're looking for more options, I suggest looking into your local electronics market - something that cannot be found online.For example, here's a similar product within 2k :http://www.ebay.in/itm/Multi-Function-CPE-AP-2-4Ghz-150Mbps-Wireless-Outdoor-Radio-for-WISP-Solutions-/181317308304?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_203&hash=item2a375a8f90

 

[quackquack]

TP-Link tl-wr1043nd? its less than 2.5k INR.
thanks!
-paul