want to know what happens when you die?I know!

[DHONl]

i say we will start hearing about progress or breakthroughs in "immortality engineering" within our lifetimes... things like nanotech, cryotech, stem cell research. we will create and sustain life artificially - of course it might already be happening in some cash-hungry small country with lax laws.

ever heard of cloning (dolly the sheep) and test tube babies? when i first read about them in the news it was freaky/unbelievable/impossible... but it has happened

For dolly the sheep they have cloned the physical body and not the spirt :thumbsup: Did it not die? Sprit comes accordingly and leaves accordingly. Test tube babies or anything only replicates the system by which a body develops same like a womb. When sprits are destiend they enter.
If it is possible to create spirts why not bring a dead alive?

Spirit is different from the physical body. We can prolong the body from degrading but it has nothing to do with the spirts. If their karma gets over for that particular time they are going to leave.

That is why even a 22 year old die suddenly and a 100 year old still alive.

In short: We can create physical bodies but still a spirit is needed to activate them. Spirits comes and goes according to its karma.

 

[vishalrao]

we are all biased, hence the aptly named blog, overcomingbias mentioned in my links above...

 

[DHONl]

we are all biased, hence the aptly named blog, overcomingbias mentioned in my links above...

We both are talking oppositely. Don't understand whom you say is biased :huh: :huh:

 

[vishalrao]

IMO you are. with comments like "a spirit is needed to activate a body" and such (IMO again) hogwash.

 

[DHONl]

In that case why the cloned creatures die? It should have been alive. People should not die when they are in life support. What your comments on that?

 

[amish]

I strongly believe that we are spirits. And in re-birth as well (in new body)I argue it this way:Why do we say, "This is my body" and not "I am body"who is my in "my body"?i can argue more but then, i have my own beliefs and other person can have his. I dont want to try break his beliefs.

 

[vishalrao]

i think the "i" and "my" part comes from being sentient: Sentience - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

i've just finished downloading "TechnoCalyps" seems interesting... will watch tonight. some sort of documentary on transhumanism, the singularity, etc

 

[DHONl]

@vishalraoYou still haven't answered to my questions asked in my previous post.

 

[vishalrao]

it seems to me you said cloned creatures do not have a spirit which is why they die, which i think is absurd.what makes you think current life support systems should keep a person alive indefinitely when their bodies might be damaged. you're saying (for my sake) if there are no spirits, then life support systems should be successful at keeping people alive indefinitely and they should not die. you're ignoring the fact that they are primitive technology... im saying its just a matter of time before technology catches up and yes, then future "life support" systems WILL keep people alive indefinitely... check out the "technological singularity" link for some background...

 

[Fiber_Optic]

In that case why the cloned creatures die? It should have been alive. People should not die when they are in life support. What your comments on that?
interesting, have all the cloned creatures died, I know the first one (Dolly) did, but have all the others died as well ?