Blackberry services to be discontinued in India?

As I said, secretaries and cabinet sectaries in government might not understand how cryptography works and might have allowed the services in without understanding them. That is why they are asking for 'master keys'. Now that BB has pointed out the 'infringing parties', the govt. might take action.India is going to be the laughing stock of the world. We have not only openly acknowledged that our intelligence infrastructure is so pathetic that anything encrypted with a symmetric encryption scheme using keys stronger than 40-bits is beyond our capabilities, but that we want private service providers to help us by providing back doors and master keys. Why not simply ask the US NSA or the British GCHQ (if it is still in operation) for help?Collecting intelligence is the business of the government. If they can't do it properly, they have no right to come and order people to stop locking their doors giving stupid reasons like - the cops are weak and hence unable to break open doors.
 
NEW DELHI: Security concerns associated with the services of BlackBerry, the smartphone used by nearly a million customers in India, have come to the fore again, raising the possibility of a fresh standoff between the Canadian service provider and the government.

The government plans to give BlackBerry maker Research in Motion (RIM) 15 days to ensure that its email and other data services comply with ‘formats that can be read by security and intelligence agencies’ after its spooks recently raised a red flag against the popular handset, said department of telecom (DoT) officials familiar with the matter.

Senior officials of key security agencies in a recent meeting argued that the continuation of BlackBerry services in the present format presents a danger to the country, said these persons who were part of the discussions. The meet was chaired by home secretary GK Pillai and attended by representatives of the home ministry, DoT, intelligence agencies and the National Technical Research Organisation (NTRO).

The government’s move is surprising because it had said in late 2008 that all security concerns associated with these devices have been resolved. The government had then, too, threatened to ban the Canadian company’s services in India.

The latest development indicates that security agencies are again finding it difficult to intercept or decipher messages sent through BlackBerry phones, which use codes with an encryption of 256 bits. This encryption code first scrambles the emails sent from a BlackBerry device and unscrambles it when the message reaches its target.

DoT officials said popular internet telephony firm Skype would also be given a 15-day deadline to ensure that calls carried by it to and from India are in formats that could be intercepted by law enforcement agencies here.

Security agencies here fear that internet-based telephony servies like Skype are being misused by terrorists to bypass monitoring systems linked to mobile phone services. The security meet also decided to ban or block BlackBerry and Skype services in India, if these companies failed to adhere to the 15-day timeline that ends in July, the persons said. ET has a copy of the minutes of this meet.

In a related development, the government has also decided to ask internet giant Google to ensure that encryptions for its Gmail services in India are in formats that can be monitored by Indian agencies. While Google has not been given a timeframe, the telecom ministry, IB and NTRO, in a note to the Parliamentary Committee looking into security concerns, said the company must comply with the new rules.

The security meet also added that the telecom department and intelligence agencies will summon both Tata Teleservices and Reliance Communications to check if the high-speed internet services offered by them to their data card customers can be lawfully monitored by security agencies. During the demonstrations, if it is observed that encryptions used by these data card services are at levels that cannot be monitored, these companies will also have to change their security settings.

Formal communications to RIM, Google, Skype, Tatas and RCOM are likely to be sent in the first week of July.
In 2008, the Indian government had threatened to block BlackBerry services unless RIM provided intelligence agencies here access to monitor all data, especially email, routed through these handsets. The government had also insisted that RIM put in place a system that would allow them to intercept data sent through these handsets as it feared that these services could be exploited by terrorists. RIM was also asked to give access to its algorithims so that security agencies here could decrypt messages. After several rounds of talks between the government and RIM, the telecom department in late-2008 had announced that the issue had been resolved.

Leading telecom companies in India such as Bharti Airtel, Vodafone Essar, Reliance Communications, Tata Teleservices, BSNL and MTNL offer BlackBerry services. The Centre has also asked the information technology ministry to amend existing rules to mandate foreign service providers offering any form of communication services to do so only on formats and platforms that can be tracked.

BlackBerry has to pass security muster in 15 days-Hardware-Infotech-The Economic Times
 
no i will be banned.i want Google to say defiant just like they did with china.in this net age you cannot stifle speech.ban skype lmao try,we will use proxy and coupled with 3g and skype mobile no more eavesdropping by the govt**** YEAH!
 
google now has a landing page on google.cnits an image that redirects to google.hkthis was a strategy to get approval for continues operation of the domain. chinese government was not happy with auto redirection. user is now required to click on the image to go to google.hk. china is of course not amused. and i see them blocking google.cn :D or simply redirecting it to baidu.com :D
 
Security agencies here fear that internet-based telephony servies like Skype are being misused by terrorists to bypass monitoring systems linked to mobile phone services. The security meet also decided to ban or block BlackBerry and Skype services in India, if these companies failed to adhere to the 15-day timeline that ends in July, the persons said. ET has a copy of the minutes of this meet.

In a related development, the government has also decided to ask internet giant Google to ensure that encryptions for its Gmail services in India are in formats that can be monitored by Indian agencies. While Google has not been given a timeframe, the telecom ministry, IB and NTRO, in a note to the Parliamentary Committee looking into security concerns, said the company must comply with the new rules.

The security meet also added that the telecom department and intelligence agencies will summon both Tata Teleservices and Reliance Communications to check if the high-speed internet services offered by them to their data card customers can be lawfully monitored by security agencies. During the demonstrations, if it is observed that encryptions used by these data card services are at levels that cannot be monitored, these companies will also have to change their security settings.

Formal communications to RIM, Google, Skype, Tatas and RCOM are likely to be sent in the first week of July.
In 2008, the Indian government had threatened to block BlackBerry services unless RIM provided intelligence agencies here access to monitor all data, especially email, routed through these handsets. The government had also insisted that RIM put in place a system that would allow them to intercept data sent through these handsets as it feared that these services could be exploited by terrorists. RIM was also asked to give access to its algorithims so that security agencies here could decrypt messages. After several rounds of talks between the government and RIM, the telecom department in late-2008 had announced that the issue had been resolved.


I'd love to point out who I think the real terrorists are... but I'd probably be killed.

The government seems to give with one hand while they take from the other. In other words, they're allowing stuff (finally) like women and lower-caste people to get educated, but then they take away civil liberties...

Why? Well, we've all seen what happens when people learn to think for themselves... Historically speaking, it's always when the masses begin to become educated that government's have to use FUD to keep people in line.

Terrorists don't spend Rs30k on the latest Blackberry Bold, they buy second-hand Rs500 phones from some black or grey market dealer which has roughly two functions: to call and to SMS. I could be wrong here of course, but I'm merely going on plausibility... they have more important things to spend money on than flashy cellphones.

I would suggest that over 99.99% of Blackberry users are using devices either issued by their workplace or purchased personally for the purpose of staying connected for work... I just purchased a Bold 9700 for my wife this morning for her work, so if BB stops working in India I'm going to be livid!!

Definitely its needed, if its a risk to the security agencies.

It's not a risk. India is the only country that I have ever been to where you have do stupid things like register your WiFi AP.

If all this shit really worked and they were able to accurately monitor everything, 26/11 - and possibly other events - would have been unlikely to have happened. Or, maybe they still would have.

I mean, communications are open in the US and the UK and Spain and all those countries have seen major terrorist events happen on their soil while not actively engaged in wars at the time.

hah. democracy. my arse.

Ironically, for the world's largest democracy, they're acting a lot like a dictatorship.

In my opinion, all this security shit is just a big ****ing financial burden and YOU, the Indian voters, need to step up and tell your government who is boss - remember, in a democracy, people are supposed to control government, not the other way around.
 

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