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QUOTE(blr_p @ May 25 2006, 09:23 PM) [snapback]52309[/snapback]
What does IntelAA show for
Current Transfer Mode
Cable Type (Host)
of each device attached ?
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udma-5 & 80 conductor for harddisk
and udma-2 40 conductor for the dvd-rom and cd-riter (can 80 conductor be used for these too for good speeds?)
got seagate barracuda 7200rpm 80GB just now.- shows data val at 50MB/s (samsung shows 32MB/s)
will test at pcpitstop too for transfer rates and post it!
while at it please check out:
http://www.broadbandforum.co/index.php?showtopic=5074
this is about RAM prob. please!
What does IntelAA show for
Current Transfer Mode
Cable Type (Host)
of each device attached ?
[/b]
udma-5 & 80 conductor for harddisk
and udma-2 40 conductor for the dvd-rom and cd-riter (can 80 conductor be used for these too for good speeds?)
got seagate barracuda 7200rpm 80GB just now.- shows data val at 50MB/s (samsung shows 32MB/s)
will test at pcpitstop too for transfer rates and post it!
while at it please check out:
http://www.broadbandforum.co/index.php?showtopic=5074
this is about RAM prob. please!
QUOTE(lokesh18 @ May 25 2006, 10:38 PM) [snapback]52314[/snapback]
udma-5 & 80 conductor for harddisk
and udma-2 40 conductor for the dvd-rom and cd-riter (can 80 conductor be used for these too for good speeds?)
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Well those values are correct then, you have 80 conductors for ur HDs.
You won't be able to change the 40 conductor speeds for your optical writers as thats the max speed they will run at. You mention dvd-rom & cd-writer, are these 2 seperate units ?
I'm going to assume 80GB HD is master, dvd-rom/cd-writer is slave on the primary. If so try to run the HD speed test with the writer disconnected (just pull the power cable on it) and post back. Leave the HD as the only item on the primary channel.
IDE channels usually run at the speed of the slowest item in the chain, in this case the cd-writer which is only UDMA-2 can have an effect on your HD speed if its on the same channel as well. Thing is you are running IAA which is supposed to counteract this effect, so i would be surprised if this makes a difference. If it does have an effect then check whether you have the latest IAA and run the test again. OR just shift the writer to the secondary channel and be done.
Process of ellimination
udma-5 & 80 conductor for harddisk
and udma-2 40 conductor for the dvd-rom and cd-riter (can 80 conductor be used for these too for good speeds?)
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Well those values are correct then, you have 80 conductors for ur HDs.
You won't be able to change the 40 conductor speeds for your optical writers as thats the max speed they will run at. You mention dvd-rom & cd-writer, are these 2 seperate units ?
I'm going to assume 80GB HD is master, dvd-rom/cd-writer is slave on the primary. If so try to run the HD speed test with the writer disconnected (just pull the power cable on it) and post back. Leave the HD as the only item on the primary channel.
IDE channels usually run at the speed of the slowest item in the chain, in this case the cd-writer which is only UDMA-2 can have an effect on your HD speed if its on the same channel as well. Thing is you are running IAA which is supposed to counteract this effect, so i would be surprised if this makes a difference. If it does have an effect then check whether you have the latest IAA and run the test again. OR just shift the writer to the secondary channel and be done.
Process of ellimination
QUOTE(blr_p @ May 26 2006, 01:00 AM) [snapback]52331[/snapback]
You mention dvd-rom & cd-writer, are these 2 seperate units ?
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ya
QUOTE(blr_p @ May 26 2006, 01:00 AM) [snapback]52331[/snapback]
I'm going to assume 80GB HD is master, dvd-rom/cd-writer is slave on the primary. If so try to run the HD speed test with the writer disconnected (just pull the power cable on it) and post back. Leave the HD as the only item on the primary channel.
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well i no hardware guy and am scared of damaging my unit
QUOTE(blr_p @ May 26 2006, 01:00 AM) [snapback]52331[/snapback]
I'm going to assume 80GB HD is master, dvd-rom/cd-writer is slave on the primary. If so try to run the HD speed test with the writer disconnected (just pull the power cable on it) and post back. Leave the HD as the only item on the primary channel.
IDE channels usually run at the speed of the slowest item in the chain, in this case the cd-writer which is only UDMA-2 can have an effect on your HD speed if its on the same channel as well. Thing is you are running IAA which is supposed to counteract this effect, so i would be surprised if this makes a difference. If it does have an effect then check whether you have the latest IAA and run the test again. OR just shift the writer to the secondary channel and be done.
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well chked bios:
primary ide master: samsung 40gb (5400rpm i think )
primary ide slave: seagate 80gb( 7200rpm)---for storage purpose
secondary ide master: cd-riter
secondary ide slave: dvd-rom
wat is IAA?(application accele?)
latest stats from pcpitstop:
samsung 40gb: the partition where win Xp is installed(D: drive) = 14MB/s
other partitions on this(samsung) showed 22MB/sec and 16MB/s
while the seagate partitions showed a good 50MB/sec( average of 51,49,50)
will defrag and microsoft bootvis help?
You mention dvd-rom & cd-writer, are these 2 seperate units ?
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ya
QUOTE(blr_p @ May 26 2006, 01:00 AM) [snapback]52331[/snapback]
I'm going to assume 80GB HD is master, dvd-rom/cd-writer is slave on the primary. If so try to run the HD speed test with the writer disconnected (just pull the power cable on it) and post back. Leave the HD as the only item on the primary channel.
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well i no hardware guy and am scared of damaging my unit
QUOTE(blr_p @ May 26 2006, 01:00 AM) [snapback]52331[/snapback]
I'm going to assume 80GB HD is master, dvd-rom/cd-writer is slave on the primary. If so try to run the HD speed test with the writer disconnected (just pull the power cable on it) and post back. Leave the HD as the only item on the primary channel.
IDE channels usually run at the speed of the slowest item in the chain, in this case the cd-writer which is only UDMA-2 can have an effect on your HD speed if its on the same channel as well. Thing is you are running IAA which is supposed to counteract this effect, so i would be surprised if this makes a difference. If it does have an effect then check whether you have the latest IAA and run the test again. OR just shift the writer to the secondary channel and be done.
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well chked bios:
primary ide master: samsung 40gb (5400rpm i think
)primary ide slave: seagate 80gb( 7200rpm)---for storage purpose
secondary ide master: cd-riter
secondary ide slave: dvd-rom
wat is IAA?(application accele?)
latest stats from pcpitstop:
samsung 40gb: the partition where win Xp is installed(D: drive) = 14MB/s
other partitions on this(samsung) showed 22MB/sec and 16MB/s
while the seagate partitions showed a good 50MB/sec( average of 51,49,50)
will defrag and microsoft bootvis help?
QUOTE(lokesh18 @ May 27 2006, 10:08 AM) [snapback]52415[/snapback]
well chked bios:
primary ide master: samsung 40gb (5400rpm i think )
primary ide slave: seagate 80gb( 7200rpm)---for storage purpose
secondary ide master: cd-riter
secondary ide slave: dvd-rom
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You OS is installed on the slower drive, should have moved it when u got the 80GB one. Anyway, if you go in for a larger drive make sure you shift the OS to the fastest drive which will most likely be a 7200RPM drive. To transfer your OS, it is very simple if you had norton/symantec ghost , make image of OS partition and save on the 80GB HD and then restore from it to the new dirve. Done! I'm not aware of any other free program that can do similar, i discovered ghost many yrs ago and did not bother to look for an alternative.
There is no need to disconnect the power cable, since your optical storage is on a different channel compared to the HDs. I suggested it as i was not sure whether you had mixed both HD+optical on each channel and as a quick way to elliminate them during testing.
For future reference, you usually disconnect the units power cable before switching the PC on, there is nothing to worry about if you do it this way. Obviously don't touch it when the PC is on.
QUOTE(lokesh18 @ May 27 2006, 10:08 AM) [snapback]52415[/snapback]
wat is IAA?(application accele?)
latest stats from pcpitstop:
samsung 40gb: the partition where win Xp is installed(D: drive) = 14MB/s
other partitions on this(samsung) showed 22MB/sec and 16MB/s
while the seagate partitions showed a good 50MB/sec( average of 51,49,50)
will defrag and microsoft bootvis help?
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IAA = Intel App Accelerator
its surprising that your windows partition is the slowest of all the other paritions on the same HD.
Is windows installed on the First paritition of that drive ?
The first partition is usually slighlty faster than the rest since you are reading from the outer area of the drive. Understand here, when i speak about fast, i'm talking about time it takes to read anything off the hD, once that's done, its your CPU & memory that take over from there. Faster drives, generally speaking means OS+apps load slightly faster *NOT* that once loaded they will run faster
I'm not so impressed with your seagate performance, it should be close to double if your PC is able to handle UDMA-5.
well chked bios:
primary ide master: samsung 40gb (5400rpm i think
)primary ide slave: seagate 80gb( 7200rpm)---for storage purpose
secondary ide master: cd-riter
secondary ide slave: dvd-rom
[/b]
You OS is installed on the slower drive, should have moved it when u got the 80GB one. Anyway, if you go in for a larger drive make sure you shift the OS to the fastest drive which will most likely be a 7200RPM drive. To transfer your OS, it is very simple if you had norton/symantec ghost , make image of OS partition and save on the 80GB HD and then restore from it to the new dirve. Done! I'm not aware of any other free program that can do similar, i discovered ghost many yrs ago and did not bother to look for an alternative.
There is no need to disconnect the power cable, since your optical storage is on a different channel compared to the HDs. I suggested it as i was not sure whether you had mixed both HD+optical on each channel and as a quick way to elliminate them during testing.
For future reference, you usually disconnect the units power cable before switching the PC on, there is nothing to worry about if you do it this way. Obviously don't touch it when the PC is on.
QUOTE(lokesh18 @ May 27 2006, 10:08 AM) [snapback]52415[/snapback]
wat is IAA?(application accele?)
latest stats from pcpitstop:
samsung 40gb: the partition where win Xp is installed(D: drive) = 14MB/s
other partitions on this(samsung) showed 22MB/sec and 16MB/s
while the seagate partitions showed a good 50MB/sec( average of 51,49,50)
will defrag and microsoft bootvis help?
[/b]
IAA = Intel App Accelerator
its surprising that your windows partition is the slowest of all the other paritions on the same HD.
Is windows installed on the First paritition of that drive ?
The first partition is usually slighlty faster than the rest since you are reading from the outer area of the drive. Understand here, when i speak about fast, i'm talking about time it takes to read anything off the hD, once that's done, its your CPU & memory that take over from there. Faster drives, generally speaking means OS+apps load slightly faster *NOT* that once loaded they will run faster
I'm not so impressed with your seagate performance, it should be close to double if your PC is able to handle UDMA-5.
QUOTE(blr_p @ May 27 2006, 12:11 PM) [snapback]52426[/snapback]
You OS is installed on the slower drive, should have moved it when u got the 80GB one. Anyway, if you go in for a larger drive make sure you shift the OS to the fastest drive which will most likely be a 7200RPM drive. To transfer your OS, it is very simple if you had norton/symantec ghost , make image of OS partition and save on the 80GB HD and then restore from it to the new dirve. Done! I'm not aware of any other free program that can do similar, i discovered ghost many yrs ago and did not bother to look for an alternative.
Is windows installed on the First paritition of that drive ?
The first partition is usually slighlty faster than the rest since you are reading from the outer area of the drive. Understand here, when i speak about fast, i'm talking about time it takes to read anything off the hD, once that's done, its your CPU & memory that take over from there. Faster drives, generally speaking means OS+apps load slightly faster *NOT* that once loaded they will run faster
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using ghost is fine, but have win98 on first partition of samsung(40gb)-primary drive
and win xp on logical disk (D drive).
so, the drive letter changing would matter or not? or edit win98 boot.ini???
QUOTE(blr_p @ May 27 2006, 12:11 PM) [snapback]52426[/snapback]
its surprising that your windows partition is the slowest of all the other paritions on the same HD.
I'm not so impressed with your seagate performance, it should be close to double if your PC is able to handle UDMA-5.
[/b]
well, if u have 5mins(or even less) of free time, why not give pcpitstop.com a try and post the result here!
just for comparison sake!
transfer rate for seagate shud be >54MB/s ?????????????
You OS is installed on the slower drive, should have moved it when u got the 80GB one. Anyway, if you go in for a larger drive make sure you shift the OS to the fastest drive which will most likely be a 7200RPM drive. To transfer your OS, it is very simple if you had norton/symantec ghost , make image of OS partition and save on the 80GB HD and then restore from it to the new dirve. Done! I'm not aware of any other free program that can do similar, i discovered ghost many yrs ago and did not bother to look for an alternative.
Is windows installed on the First paritition of that drive ?
The first partition is usually slighlty faster than the rest since you are reading from the outer area of the drive. Understand here, when i speak about fast, i'm talking about time it takes to read anything off the hD, once that's done, its your CPU & memory that take over from there. Faster drives, generally speaking means OS+apps load slightly faster *NOT* that once loaded they will run faster
[/b]
using ghost is fine, but have win98 on first partition of samsung(40gb)-primary drive
and win xp on logical disk (D drive).
so, the drive letter changing would matter or not? or edit win98 boot.ini???
QUOTE(blr_p @ May 27 2006, 12:11 PM) [snapback]52426[/snapback]
its surprising that your windows partition is the slowest of all the other paritions on the same HD.
I'm not so impressed with your seagate performance, it should be close to double if your PC is able to handle UDMA-5.
[/b]
well, if u have 5mins(or even less) of free time, why not give pcpitstop.com a try and post the result here!
just for comparison sake!
transfer rate for seagate shud be >54MB/s ?????????????
QUOTE(lokesh18 @ May 27 2006, 10:13 PM) [snapback]52485[/snapback]
using ghost is fine, but have win98 on first partition of samsung(40gb)-primary drive
and win xp on logical disk (D drive).
so, the drive letter changing would matter or not? or edit win98 boot.ini???
[/b]
Whichever OS you use the most needs to be on the first partition. From what you said i would assume this is win98. What are you trying to achieve with drive letter changing. Seems you have a dual boot system.
QUOTE(lokesh18 @ May 27 2006, 10:13 PM) [snapback]52485[/snapback]
well, if u have 5mins(or even less) of free time, why not give pcpitstop.com a try and post the result here!
just for comparison sake!
transfer rate for seagate shud be >54MB/s ?????????????
[/b]
Hmm, that site seems like a informercial for diskeeper, which tool exactly did you use test HD speeds, all i see are internet only tools available. My server does not go onto the net, so if there is some tool that can be run locally i can use that.
There are better tools out there for this sort of thing. Ones that are used in reviews for hardware, i suggest you give those a try as well. I'll let other members comment on which they are.
using ghost is fine, but have win98 on first partition of samsung(40gb)-primary drive
and win xp on logical disk (D drive).
so, the drive letter changing would matter or not? or edit win98 boot.ini???
[/b]
Whichever OS you use the most needs to be on the first partition. From what you said i would assume this is win98. What are you trying to achieve with drive letter changing. Seems you have a dual boot system.
QUOTE(lokesh18 @ May 27 2006, 10:13 PM) [snapback]52485[/snapback]
well, if u have 5mins(or even less) of free time, why not give pcpitstop.com a try and post the result here!
just for comparison sake!
transfer rate for seagate shud be >54MB/s ?????????????
[/b]
Hmm, that site seems like a informercial for diskeeper, which tool exactly did you use test HD speeds, all i see are internet only tools available. My server does not go onto the net, so if there is some tool that can be run locally i can use that.
There are better tools out there for this sort of thing. Ones that are used in reviews for hardware, i suggest you give those a try as well. I'll let other members comment on which they are.
QUOTE(kambui @ May 27 2006, 03:30 PM) [snapback]52450[/snapback]
I am not advertising but.....you all share strange prices of HDD
I usually sell(keeping a marginal profit, you can't hide that)
Seagate 80gb barracuda for 2200 INR
Samsung 80gb 7200 rpm for 2050 INR
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Are these prices valin in Mumbai? And how much gurranty/warranry does these HDDs carry?
I am not advertising but.....you all share strange prices of HDD
I usually sell(keeping a marginal profit, you can't hide that)
Seagate 80gb barracuda for 2200 INR
Samsung 80gb 7200 rpm for 2050 INR
[/b]
Are these prices valin in Mumbai? And how much gurranty/warranry does these HDDs carry?