Is this possible?

[acc1444]

I have noticed that number of companies provide connection by giving just Ethernet cable without CPE. If customer disconnects service, company's cable installation team will not come to remove installed cable and it remains as it is.

But. my question is .....

Suppose I take connection from GTPL. Buy a big internet plan like 2mbps or 4mbps and share among my friends at cheap rate. I mean to say. Can I create my computer as a server and allow my friends to surf on internet through my computer not from GTPL by making my computer as a default gateway? Some of my friends already have installed cables by GTPL at their home.
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Before going further, let me explain system how they provide connection to their customer. It is simple LAN.

Sometimes, they install Fiber instead of CAT 5 between two switch for better performance. I am not sure about how they provide because it is just assumption. I assumed it by talking with GTPL's authorized technician.
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Suppose they put router instead of switch, is it still possible?

The same network system, Five Q net has in Mumbai.

 

[mgcarley]

I have noticed that number of companies provide connection by giving just Ethernet cable without CPE. If customer disconnects service, company's cable installation team will not come to remove installed cable and it remains as it is.

But. my question is .....

Suppose I take connection from GTPL. Buy a big internet plan like 2mbps or 4mbps and share among my friends at cheap rate. I mean to say. Can I create my computer as a server and allow my friends to surf on internet through my computer not from GTPL by making my computer as a default gateway? Some of my friends already have installed cables by GTPL at their home.
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Before going further, let me explain system how they provide connection to their customer. It is simple LAN.

Sometimes, they install Fiber instead of CAT 5 between two switch for better performance. I am not sure about how they provide because it is just assumption. I assumed it by talking with GTPL's authorized technician.
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Suppose they put router instead of switch, is it still possible?

The same network system, Five Q net has in Mumbai.

You could do this, but don't expect the authorities or the ISP (in this case GTPL) to be happy about it, especially if it's a home plan... my response would be similar to https://broadband.forum/broadband-in-india/70816-needs-help-wifi-setup-500m/#post519963, except replace WiFi with LAN.

 

[acc1444]

I agree with your system explanation. I think this idea would be better rather than keeping computer ON 24x7 and maintain it.

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But is there possibility to keep this type of system in LAN without keeping computer ON? Like any router/CPE.

 

[mgcarley]

I agree with your system explanation. I think this idea would be better rather than keeping computer ON 24x7 and maintain it.

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But is there possibility to keep this type of system in LAN without keeping computer ON? Like any router/CPE.


As mentioned, don't expect GTPL to be happy about it ESPECIALLY if you're on a residential plan (this is part of the reason ISPs claim they have to have FUPs, remember - this is like what we've all heard about cyber cafes abusing residential plans and ruining it for the rest of us).

It's also very probable that the authorities won't appreciate it too much either. If it was somewhere other than India, it would probably be fine, but because it is India, this is one of those "don't try this at home" scenarios: if you don't get the right permissions from the right people, you WILL be opening yourself up to legal risk (etc etc).


Otherwise, yes, technically, this kind of setup is quite easy to do whether you use a PC or a router which holds your authentication mechanism - there are some lightweight linux distros which fit on the older versions of the ever popular Linksys 54G router which are kind of designed to do this - they're suitable for a small number of clients only though - once you get past 10 or so, the router will struggle to keep up. There are of course more powerful routers but it all depends on the amount of clients you want as to what works best.

 

[acc1444]

As mentioned, don't expect GTPL to be happy about it ESPECIALLY if you're on a residential plan (this is part of the reason ISPs claim they have to have FUPs, remember - this is like what we've all heard about cyber cafes abusing residential plans and ruining it for the rest of us).

It's also very probable that the authorities won't appreciate it too much either. If it was somewhere other than India, it would probably be fine, but because it is India, this is one of those "don't try this at home" scenarios: if you don't get the right permissions from the right people, you WILL be opening yourself up to legal risk (etc etc).


Otherwise, yes, technically, this kind of setup is quite easy to do whether you use a PC or a router which holds your authentication mechanism - there are some lightweight linux distros which fit on the older versions of the ever popular Linksys 54G router which are kind of designed to do this - they're suitable for a small number of clients only though - once you get past 10 or so, the router will struggle to keep up. There are of course more powerful routers but it all depends on the amount of clients you want as to what works best.

I know this is risky to do. I thought about it twice and understood the risk. Then, changed my mind because I realized they can trace me easily. I also thought about Foreign Ip which is not a good idea to give same ip to each user. It will create a problem for me.
Yeah but sometimes, I want to try when my friend has an emergency. Actually, I am not going to try with GTPL. I want to set up in Mumbai with Five Network in college for temporary purpose.

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Even I think no additional device is required if I set up my computer as a server.

In college, there is a port binding which restrict some website from access. I tried to crack but it is not possible without proxy. So, I have to take an additional internet line. Is there any way to break/bypass port restriction?

 

[acc1444]

If I use proxy, they can easily trace me by filtering the heavy traffic particular to one IP/website.

 

[dovahkiin]

if i were you i would get 2 shell a/cs from 2 different continents and bounce off everything after step 2, no isp is happy when you do this and they will trace it down , but..... google still is your best friend. all of us do dumb things when in collage !!!:001_tongue:

 

[Saurav]

If you really do it, would it be legal? (just asking)

 

[devx101]

If I use proxy, they can easily trace me by filtering the heavy traffic particular to one IP/website.

just put a router in ur connection/their provided port and share it with others. I don't think they will be able to trace it(apart from ultra usage)....just don't go tricks like VPN/proxy etc. Many people share connections with multiple computers in home i don't think they can trace it in any way.....

 

[mgcarley]

If you really do it, would it be legal? (just asking)

See my first post (and the post referenced therein). The answer is pretty much "no".

just put a router in ur connection/their provided port and share it with others. I don't think they will be able to trace it(apart from ultra usage)....just don't go tricks like VPN/proxy etc. Many people share connections with multiple computers in home i don't think they can trace it in any way.....

Sharing between multiple computers in ones own household is vastly different from sharing it with neighbours and friends. It's not even about being traced, it's that what's being proposedt could become classed as a commercial operation and if caught operating without the appropriate permissions from the authorities and the upstream ISP (in this case Fivenet) would likely cause him to be legally "shafted" on several fronts - moreso especially if he charges them for access (this would include sharing the cost of the plan).

The T&C for a residential connection is generally pretty straightforward: one connection, one household. If he talks to [Fivenet] about what he wants to do, they *may* grant him permission to do it (or offer him a plan that would allow it), but quite possibly they may not because of the fairly strict rules in India surrounding ISP services - it's not just the subscriber who could get in to trouble, but the ISP's ass could be on the line too, and as I've mentioned in the other thread, if discovered the ISPs reaction would probably be to terminate the connection immediately.