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MTNL Broadband: 4Mbps Unlimited for Rs.999 is enough to settle my Online Internet life!!
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anuj kathuria
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initially 3g will be indeed EXPENSIVE. prices will come down sooner and later
https://youtube.com/watch?v=gZLvSnr6s50&
hehe.... now that i think about it..........2mbps @ 999 is not more than a year away.
Thank you for that video, my dream is that us brown boys and brown girls will be able to join hands with other white boys and white girls.
(by that i mean our speed will same as theres
)
---------- Post added at 05:10 AM ---------- Previous post was at 05:00 AM ----------
if 3G will provide better rates of unlimited plans then broadband will, won't everyone start using 3G for their PCs?
hehe.... now that i think about it..........2mbps @ 999 is not more than a year away.
Thank you for that video, my dream is that us brown boys and brown girls will be able to join hands with other white boys and white girls.
(by that i mean our speed will same as theres
)---------- Post added at 05:10 AM ---------- Previous post was at 05:00 AM ----------
if 3G will provide better rates of unlimited plans then broadband will, won't everyone start using 3G for their PCs?
suryansh.gupta
Regular
hehe.... now that i think about it..........2mbps @ 999 is not more than a year away.
Thank you for that video, my dream is that us brown boys and brown girls will be able to join hands with other white boys and white girls.
(by that i mean our speed will same as theres)
---------- Post added at 05:10 AM ---------- Previous post was at 05:00 AM ----------
if 3G will provide better rates of unlimited plans then broadband will, won't everyone start using 3G for their PCs?
lolz ..why only in net speed why not in other things dude
Thank you for that video, my dream is that us brown boys and brown girls will be able to join hands with other white boys and white girls.
(by that i mean our speed will same as theres
)---------- Post added at 05:10 AM ---------- Previous post was at 05:00 AM ----------
if 3G will provide better rates of unlimited plans then broadband will, won't everyone start using 3G for their PCs?
lolz ..why only in net speed why not in other things dude
mgcarley
Founder, Hayai Broadband
The price of 3G spectrum in ratio with the population is one of the least in the world. The price should be a lot more!
Per head of population, yes, it's not a completely awful price. Per head of population with mobile phones, not as good. Per head of population which has or can afford a 3G capable handset... ROI will not be so easy to achieve.
hehe. you are forgetting something here. mobile rates and ARPU in india is also one of the lowest. mobile companies are unlikely to do any charity. MTNL and BSNL has already proved that 3G is not going to be cheap.
But therein lies another issue: stereotypically speaking, Indians on the whole prefer the cheaper option, and adoption of a 3G service will be a bit slow if it is significantly more expensive.
I see this all the time when I get messages suggesting I create an unlimited 4mbit/s plan for Rs999 (you know who you are). Yeah... uh... it's not that simple.
Pricing is something whereby there is a somewhat delicate balance between profitability and customer satisfaction (eg Value for Money).
initially 3g will be indeed EXPENSIVE. prices will come down sooner and later
Exactly. Why would I use a 3G service which 1. drains my phone battery faster (I mean, some of you guys are afraid to wear out the headlamps in your cars!!) and 2. costs me more (call quality aside). I am relatively certain that if the 3G premium is not too high, then adoption should not be an issue.
hehe.... now that i think about it..........2mbps @ 999 is not more than a year away.
Thank you for that video, my dream is that us brown boys and brown girls will be able to join hands with other white boys and white girls.
(by that i mean our speed will same as theres)
---------- Post added at 05:10 AM ---------- Previous post was at 05:00 AM ----------
if 3G will provide better rates of unlimited plans then broadband will, won't everyone start using 3G for their PCs?
I think you should see 2mbit/s at Rs999 in the 2010 calendar year.
But it is unlikely the 3G will help either with internet plans or speeds. First of all, it's basically already available as Reliance NetConnect+, Tata Photon+ and MTS Blaze (granted, both of these are CDMA-2000 based services, not GSM, which is what we're really discussing here.)
Those nodes provide only a few megabits of bandwidth, and with the population density you have in urban areas, there will need to be A LOT of nodes to provide an effective service.
So all you need to to really is look at those offerings already from those players and this might be a hint of what the scene will look like when 3G comes out.
The reason 3G does so well in places like Japan, Korea and Scandinavia is because people use their phones as their primary Internet Access.
In the case of the Japanese and the Koreans, they work long hours, commute for ages (been there, done that), and in the case of all those places, they spend bucket-loads on their phones every month, mostly because often the phone bills are paid by the company. Because of this, having excellent mobile services makes sense.
Service is pretty much 100% available throughout Tokyo's extensive subway system. And why wouldn't it be? Stuffing cables and 3G nodes in to a subway tunnel is pretty easy and cheap by comparison with above ground.
It's also available throughout almost the entirety of Finland. In 3 years living there, I found only one place that didn't have 3G service and that was very much in the middle of nowhere up towards lapland.
3G will help a lot with mobile services though: India could be the next Finland of Mobile Web stuff. One issue I do forsee is that the last people to get 3G service will be the people who could benefit from it most, i.e. rural communities.
lolz ..why only in net speed why not in other things dude
I just hope that the companies which actually obtain 3G licenses roll it out properly - something that seems to happen only occasionally in India. It's the old IT principle of cheap, fast or effective: choose 2.
I do hope however that I am wrong in much of what I've said here and apologize for having veered somewhat off-topic.
Per head of population, yes, it's not a completely awful price. Per head of population with mobile phones, not as good. Per head of population which has or can afford a 3G capable handset... ROI will not be so easy to achieve.
hehe. you are forgetting something here. mobile rates and ARPU in india is also one of the lowest. mobile companies are unlikely to do any charity. MTNL and BSNL has already proved that 3G is not going to be cheap.
But therein lies another issue: stereotypically speaking, Indians on the whole prefer the cheaper option, and adoption of a 3G service will be a bit slow if it is significantly more expensive.
I see this all the time when I get messages suggesting I create an unlimited 4mbit/s plan for Rs999 (you know who you are). Yeah... uh... it's not that simple.
Pricing is something whereby there is a somewhat delicate balance between profitability and customer satisfaction (eg Value for Money).
initially 3g will be indeed EXPENSIVE. prices will come down sooner and later
Exactly. Why would I use a 3G service which 1. drains my phone battery faster (I mean, some of you guys are afraid to wear out the headlamps in your cars!!) and 2. costs me more (call quality aside). I am relatively certain that if the 3G premium is not too high, then adoption should not be an issue.
hehe.... now that i think about it..........2mbps @ 999 is not more than a year away.
Thank you for that video, my dream is that us brown boys and brown girls will be able to join hands with other white boys and white girls.
(by that i mean our speed will same as theres
)---------- Post added at 05:10 AM ---------- Previous post was at 05:00 AM ----------
if 3G will provide better rates of unlimited plans then broadband will, won't everyone start using 3G for their PCs?
I think you should see 2mbit/s at Rs999 in the 2010 calendar year.
But it is unlikely the 3G will help either with internet plans or speeds. First of all, it's basically already available as Reliance NetConnect+, Tata Photon+ and MTS Blaze (granted, both of these are CDMA-2000 based services, not GSM, which is what we're really discussing here.)
Those nodes provide only a few megabits of bandwidth, and with the population density you have in urban areas, there will need to be A LOT of nodes to provide an effective service.
So all you need to to really is look at those offerings already from those players and this might be a hint of what the scene will look like when 3G comes out.
The reason 3G does so well in places like Japan, Korea and Scandinavia is because people use their phones as their primary Internet Access.
In the case of the Japanese and the Koreans, they work long hours, commute for ages (been there, done that), and in the case of all those places, they spend bucket-loads on their phones every month, mostly because often the phone bills are paid by the company. Because of this, having excellent mobile services makes sense.
Service is pretty much 100% available throughout Tokyo's extensive subway system. And why wouldn't it be? Stuffing cables and 3G nodes in to a subway tunnel is pretty easy and cheap by comparison with above ground.
It's also available throughout almost the entirety of Finland. In 3 years living there, I found only one place that didn't have 3G service and that was very much in the middle of nowhere up towards lapland.
3G will help a lot with mobile services though: India could be the next Finland of Mobile Web stuff. One issue I do forsee is that the last people to get 3G service will be the people who could benefit from it most, i.e. rural communities.
lolz ..why only in net speed why not in other things dude
I just hope that the companies which actually obtain 3G licenses roll it out properly - something that seems to happen only occasionally in India. It's the old IT principle of cheap, fast or effective: choose 2.
I do hope however that I am wrong in much of what I've said here and apologize for having veered somewhat off-topic.
mgcarley
Founder, Hayai Broadband
i am getting sick of aircel edge connection on my phone. i end up using it mostly for checking in through foursquare. even twittering has become a pain when i am inside... forget about using it for GPS (through google maps navigation) or even surfing.
If it's rolled out to rural areas and they can be given equipment to use it, then this will be a good thing, no doubt.
Call me a cynic but personally I'm expecting a lot of people to be disappointed by 3G. If not by the lower-end 3G handsets which will be 3G 1.0 (as in 384kbit/s) which isn't much of an improvement over EDGE, then by the service itself for those with 3.5G (3.6mbit/s or more) capable handsets.
Unfortunately, I think 3G has been hyped by everyone - the government included - as the panacea, the fix-all, the cure - to all the internet/broadband problems in India. It's just not.
It is a start, and I won't deny that 3G is a great thing on the whole. I just hope it's implemented properly.
If it's rolled out to rural areas and they can be given equipment to use it, then this will be a good thing, no doubt.
Call me a cynic but personally I'm expecting a lot of people to be disappointed by 3G. If not by the lower-end 3G handsets which will be 3G 1.0 (as in 384kbit/s) which isn't much of an improvement over EDGE, then by the service itself for those with 3.5G (3.6mbit/s or more) capable handsets.
Unfortunately, I think 3G has been hyped by everyone - the government included - as the panacea, the fix-all, the cure - to all the internet/broadband problems in India. It's just not.
It is a start, and I won't deny that 3G is a great thing on the whole. I just hope it's implemented properly.
mgcarley
Founder, Hayai Broadband
So mgcarley, what do you think about the BWA auction? Will proper wimax or LTE launch happen in major cities within next 1 year? What will it do to the pricing of ADSL servcies of MTNL or Airtel? Any chance of a price war?
Heh... you're asking me like I'm an expert or something
I do forsee however, that having made the investment in buying the spectrum, the winners of said spectrum are likely to milk it for all it's worth, and I hope that they will provide service particularly to areas of rural India.
For those that win a spectrum allocation, it will be good because it will essentially allow more operators in a particular area, without interference - which, even if the prices remain the same, means that hopefully the quality of service will go up a bit.
I don't, however, expect it to change the game significantly, as WiMax base stations still only can output a limited amount of bandwidth, and it's not going to stop situations whereby the provder over-allocates the number of users connecting to any one node (see https://broadband.forum/broadband-india/58831-plz-help-me/#post388626).
It also means that it may be difficult to switch from one provider to another: Reliance WiMax would use different equipment to BSNL/MTNL WiMax for example, and thus in order to switch, the purchase of new equipment may be necessary (though hard to say - they might decide to be consumer friendly about it and allow non-proprietary equipment on the network).
I don't forsee a huge drop in price of the ADSL market from BSNL/MTNL either, because for them, as far as I can gather, the last mile is theirs anyway - and dropping the price would be like a price war with themselves. Really it's the wholesale bandwidth that costs them the money. And they buy a lot more of it than I do, so their price is surely lower than mine, but probably the same-or-slightly-more than Bharti/Reliance/Tata themselves.
All in all, I do hope that 3G (as far as normal 3G is concerned) is little more than a stepping stone in order to support existing 3G devices, and that the implementation of it is at least as good as Telecom NZ or Optus Australia (up to 14 and 21mbit/s respectively, providing the user device supports that bandwidth).
I hope that as the number of mobile-WiMax compatible devices hits the market, providers will have telephony-services over mobile-Wimax, and that said implementations are at least on par with what NTT Japan is doing.
Lastly, I forsee that in a few years this prediction will likely be completely hilarious - like Bill Gates quote about no computer ever needing more than 640k of RAM or Ken Olson's one about no home ever needing a computer
Heh... you're asking me like I'm an expert or something
I do forsee however, that having made the investment in buying the spectrum, the winners of said spectrum are likely to milk it for all it's worth, and I hope that they will provide service particularly to areas of rural India.
For those that win a spectrum allocation, it will be good because it will essentially allow more operators in a particular area, without interference - which, even if the prices remain the same, means that hopefully the quality of service will go up a bit.
I don't, however, expect it to change the game significantly, as WiMax base stations still only can output a limited amount of bandwidth, and it's not going to stop situations whereby the provder over-allocates the number of users connecting to any one node (see https://broadband.forum/broadband-india/58831-plz-help-me/#post388626).
It also means that it may be difficult to switch from one provider to another: Reliance WiMax would use different equipment to BSNL/MTNL WiMax for example, and thus in order to switch, the purchase of new equipment may be necessary (though hard to say - they might decide to be consumer friendly about it and allow non-proprietary equipment on the network).
I don't forsee a huge drop in price of the ADSL market from BSNL/MTNL either, because for them, as far as I can gather, the last mile is theirs anyway - and dropping the price would be like a price war with themselves. Really it's the wholesale bandwidth that costs them the money. And they buy a lot more of it than I do, so their price is surely lower than mine, but probably the same-or-slightly-more than Bharti/Reliance/Tata themselves.
All in all, I do hope that 3G (as far as normal 3G is concerned) is little more than a stepping stone in order to support existing 3G devices, and that the implementation of it is at least as good as Telecom NZ or Optus Australia (up to 14 and 21mbit/s respectively, providing the user device supports that bandwidth).
I hope that as the number of mobile-WiMax compatible devices hits the market, providers will have telephony-services over mobile-Wimax, and that said implementations are at least on par with what NTT Japan is doing.
Lastly, I forsee that in a few years this prediction will likely be completely hilarious - like Bill Gates quote about no computer ever needing more than 640k of RAM or Ken Olson's one about no home ever needing a computer