National Broadband Plan, TRAI and the Indian broadband customer

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I actually read up the Whole National Broadband policy doc and also the consultation replies to TRAI given by various operators and there are to many probs. in that.:@:notallowed:Firstly by reading the text u will find that they have over emphasized on providing Broadband to Village people. Some 50,000 cr. of 60k is to be spent on that alone. I dont really think that such a thing would be feasible. I cannot expect a company like Reliance or airtel to provide BB to a large village with 10k people at least in the next 5 years. If USA is grappling with this problem(poor connectivity to villages) India should even not think of it. Just the poor state of BB in tier 2-3 cities is enough to tell the story. Still people in villages have no access to basic things like Electricity, leave alone a PC or even a cyber cafe. I think the govt. is rather interested in setting up its administrative machinery with this network, though commendable can be more easily done with wireless techs.:thumb:the good part is that it recommends setting up of an national optic fiber company which everyone can lease. If you read the consulation paper replies by Tata and reliance they have opposes this ( clearly bcoz it will make their existing OFC non competitive).:PIt has particularly remained silent on Intl BW. Again if u read consultation papers of Tata and bharti they have said to even the extent that intl BW prices are very cheap in India compared o Japan(which ironically has the cheapest per Mbps PPP rate) , they have even written that USA-Europe should not be considered bcoz of diff. characteristics (huge no. of players not to mention). It clearly states that they want their monopoly over this intl. traffic business. New entrants have been rather slow and this three want to completely utilize this situation.:thumb:Again the good Local loop Bundling will take perhaps this time unlike 2004 BB policy. Finally we can expect Tata internet on BSNL's copper line. Bsnl off course said that our loops are fully utilized,poor quality blah blah. Hope Govt. does not listens to them.:clap:One major change is perhaps the uni vocal demand for local content. everyone has said we need to have more Data servers thus local content and no need for intl. submarine lines.
 
I actually read up the Whole National Broadband policy doc and also the consultation replies to TRAI given by various operators and there are to many probs. in that.:@

:notallowed:
Firstly by reading the text u will find that they have over emphasized on providing Broadband to Village people. Some 50,000 cr. of 60k is to be spent on that alone. I dont really think that such a thing would be feasible. I cannot expect a company like Reliance or airtel to provide BB to a large village with 10k people at least in the next 5 years. If USA is grappling with this problem(poor connectivity to villages) India should even not think of it. Just the poor state of BB in tier 2-3 cities is enough to tell the story.
Still people in villages have no access to basic things like Electricity, leave alone a PC or even a cyber cafe. I think the govt. is rather interested in setting up its administrative machinery with this network, though commendable can be more easily done with wireless techs.

:thumb:the good part is that it recommends setting up of an national optic fiber company which everyone can lease. If you read the consulation paper replies by Tata and reliance they have opposes this ( clearly bcoz it will make their existing OFC non competitive).

:PIt has particularly remained silent on Intl BW. Again if u read consultation papers of Tata and bharti they have said to even the extent that intl BW prices are very cheap in India compared o Japan(which ironically has the cheapest per Mbps PPP rate) , they have even written that USA-Europe should not be considered bcoz of diff. characteristics (huge no. of players not to mention). It clearly states that they want their monopoly over this intl. traffic business. New entrants have been rather slow and this three want to completely utilize this situation.

:thumb:Again the good Local loop Bundling will take perhaps this time unlike 2004 BB policy. Finally we can expect Tata internet on BSNL's copper line. Bsnl off course said that our loops are fully utilized,poor quality blah blah. Hope Govt. does not listens to them.

:clap:One major change is perhaps the uni vocal demand for local content. everyone has said we need to have more Data servers thus local content and no need for intl. submarine lines.

Thanks for regurgitating pretty much everything I have said on this subject over the past month :)
 
In our Country Broadband rates are very very high only high class people are able to use the technology. But whereas poor like are not able to use such technology. So our Indian Government has to reduce the rates/price of Broadband. So our brothers and sisters can happily use it without any problem. The rate should be very very minimal.
 
In our Country Broadband rates are very very high only high class people are able to use the technology. But whereas poor like are not able to use such technology. So our Indian Government has to reduce the rates/price of Broadband. So our brothers and sisters can happily use it without any problem. The rate should be very very minimal.

I disagree.

The rates available for basic broadband on an International scale are quite reasonable - Rs750 or less for 256kbit/s flat-rate access is minimal when you consider that, in many areas of the country, many hundreds of kilometers of cables have been employed to get the connection to the user.

However, India's problem lies with anything above "basic broadband" - the higher-speed options are basically out of reach for a large percentage of the population, and due to the economics involved (particularly with the cost of last mile and or domestic transit) it has not yet become possible to offer higher speeds at this price. Even if the International pricing can drop significantly there will always be a lower limit to the pricing, and I would suggest that it is not really possible for ISPs to subsidize the last mile too heavily - materials and labour cost money, after all, and the money has to come from somebody's pocket - making a loss isn't a good business model, even if we are talking about a government ISP.

When 1 or 2mbit/s flat-rate plans can be had at this price bracket (Rs750) then the situation will be better, but even if/when this happens, it doesn't mean that a 256kbit/s flat-rate connection will fall to Rs100.
 
In our Country Broadband rates are very very high only high class people are able to use the technology. But whereas poor like are not able to use such technology. So our Indian Government has to reduce the rates/price of Broadband. So our brothers and sisters can happily use it without any problem. The rate should be very very minimal.

Dont worry. India will become a lower middle income country by ~2025 with fast economic growth and higher middle income before 2050. As people become richer, they can afford better technology and a better Lifestyle.
 
Dont worry. India will become a lower middle income country by ~2025 with fast economic growth and higher middle income before 2050. As people become richer, they can afford better technology and a better Lifestyle.

It has already become middle income...
Our economy/GDP is now near 1.7trillion $...:irock:
we are now in the top ten probably..:wewin:
people are now earning more..:redface:

India now on middle income path - Home - livemint.com
 
It has already become middle income...
Our economy/GDP is now near 1.7trillion $...:irock:
we are now in the top ten probably..:wewin:
people are now earning more..:redface:

India now on middle income path - Home - livemint.com

While India is something like the 5th largest economy in the world, it's also the second largest. GDP per person is only a couple of thousand per year. To be "in the middle", the economy probably needs to increase by about 10 times - if the population remains static (about $10-15k per year should do it).
 
It has already become middle income...
Our economy/GDP is now near 1.7trillion $...:irock:
we are now in the top ten probably..:wewin:
people are now earning more..:redface:

India now on middle income path - Home - livemint.com

You forgot that inflation is higher than interest rate...this is shud be very high concern.

India is not growing as it seems... last decade, many foreign investment came in..thats why we SEE..lots of money.....but now foreign investors are seeking profits ....this profit will come out of our pockets...it goes in form of inflation.... salary rise for common men is hardly 5% a year.

THINK AGAIN!
 
inflation as a part of profit ??? where did u study economics ??? India has grown into a middle class country, i would say lower niche of higher middle class, believe me, whgen U come back to india after long time u can see the difference.and Inflation is part of Uprising always, ever heard inflation during downturn?( except when India was like a communist country) anyways to the point Right now rates for BB are getting highly targetted it seems like companies are searching for right price to fix on; FUP with rage and thinking that TRAI still has head on its body will be down and null-void in few. but as mgcarley ( where is HAYAYI yet ??? ) said 1 Mbits for 750 should be a norm so taht we can reach upto 5 Mb for like 1200 and 10 + for around 2k, Look at the prices now, I, U and most of us get around 1 Mbps for like 1100/1200 it will come down. just have a hope or better yet, HOOK UP UR WIRE TO SUBMARINE CABLES that outta do it.
 
You forgot that inflation is higher than interest rate...this is shud be very high concern.

India is not growing as it seems... last decade, many foreign investment came in..thats why we SEE..lots of money.....but now foreign investors are seeking profits ....this profit will come out of our pockets...it goes in form of inflation.... salary rise for common men is hardly 5% a year.

THINK AGAIN!
Even 5% per year compounded anually can do wonders in the long run. And inflation isn't this high all the time.
 
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