New Reliance broadnet broadband plans rolled out for All India

[Glass]

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some have said that they can't use in on multiple devices

can you tell if we can connect a wifi route to the reliance connection and whether you have used multiple device?
Yes, you can use a single ADSL router; or add a broadband router to the router provided by Reliance. I share my connection on two desktops (one by LAN cable, one using a wireless USB adapter), one laptop and one wifi-capable phone - sometimes all four at once.
also when you use it on defifferent devices,do you have to login on both of them and how can that be if one login locks the mac address?

and what do i do when i connect the net to my PS3,what kind of login will i do then
You need to login on the first device alone, and you can use internet on all. When you use a router, you need to use it in MER/Dynamic IP mode (and not bridge mode) - meaning the mac id Reliance stores is that of the router and not the PC/laptop/phone from which you actually login. Everything behind the router is your own business.

I am not sure how PS3 works, but if it can not open a browser, you will have to login from another device first.

There is one once-a-month issue that happens at least in Hyderabad (mentioned in this thread) that sometimes causes pain. The actual settings of the routers have been dealt in detail on the board - you can get them using a search.

Originally Posted by mgcarley
In theory yes, but the CSEs are not supposed to advise how because of this document: Powered by Google Docs
See sections I.a.iv, I.d.iv, I.d.v.
Hmm, but then how is Reliance's wifi different from all other ISPs, who help the customers set it up. Btw, there is a page in Reliance's connection profile where you should declare your wifi use and router name.

 

[mgcarley]

Yes, you can use a single ADSL router; or add a broadband router to the router provided by Reliance. I share my connection on two desktops (one by LAN cable, one using a wireless USB adapter), one laptop and one wifi-capable phone - sometimes all four at once.


That's exactly the kind of usage I was trying to describe to solid_snake4rd earlier in the thread

Hmm, but then how is Reliance's wifi different from all other ISPs, who help the customers set it up. Btw, there is a page in Reliance's connection profile where you should declare your wifi use and router name.

Reliance isn't providing by WiFi, is it? I thought it was WiMax. Or do they have a product I've not explored yet?

 

[Glass]

Reliance isn't providing by WiFi, is it? I thought it was WiMax. Or do they have a product I've not explored yet?
I meant a wired internet line (not wimax) to which you attach a wifi (ADSL/broadband) router. Even this needs declared to the ISP.

Reliance, as I recollect, provides this kind of wifi to corporate customers; but for other customers they say 'you are free to set it up though we won't support you in setting it up'.

 

[ashutosh_x]

guys, the new reliance plans have been now made available throughout India and the same has been updated on their website too.


You can call the call center and ask them to migrate you to new plans. They say it should be done in 48hrs.

Rs499 - 300kbps + 50 free calls
Rs649 - 600kbps + 50 free calls
Rs749 - 600kbps day/ 1Mbps night + 50 free calls

Waiting for the time if/when BSNL and Tata indicom wake up to this. They still seem to be under sleeping mode and have no such similar schemes launched yet.

 

[mgcarley]

I meant a wired internet line (not wimax) to which you attach a wifi (ADSL/broadband) router. Even this needs declared to the ISP.

Then I would imagine "Reliance WiFi" is no different... Reliance probably do not supply WiFi enabled routers to consumers because they declare the plans to be "single user", whereas Airtel and others have the option of a WiFi modem when you subscribe to the service.

I'd say if you went to Airtel or anyone else, however, with a router you purchased down at Croma for example, they'd probably refuse to assist you in setting it up.

And rightfully so. They can't possibly know the UI of every device on the market.

Reliance, as I recollect, provides this kind of wifi to corporate customers; but for other customers they say 'you are free to set it up though we won't support you in setting it up'.

Normally corporate customers have the Photo IDs of their employees and some kind of infrastructure in place to configure WiFi, so it's not an issue?

Or am I missing a point somewhere?

 

[brickhouse]

That's exactly the kind of usage I was trying to describe to solid_snake4rd earlier in the thread

i know and believe you

was just trying to get an experience of a reliance customer and how they connect



Reliance isn't providing by WiFi, is it? I thought it was WiMax. Or do they have a product I've not explored yet?

reliance has bothe wireline adsl and Wimax connections,different departments and they manage and provide services differently

reliance wimax and wimax wireline provide multi-user

but not wireline adsl

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I meant a wired internet line (not wimax) to which you attach a wifi (ADSL/broadband) router. Even this needs declared to the ISP.

Reliance, as I recollect, provides this kind of wifi to corporate customers; but for other customers they say 'you are free to set it up though we won't support you in setting it up'.

so you are talking about ADSL reliance wireline and not wimax or wimax wireline?

just forgot to ask about that



abtconnecting to PS3,PS3 has a browser but many consoles don't.they either have a network connection area where you can make a dialup or a normal connection

can't we make the router do the stuff automatically like in airtel,tata wireline where they insert login details in the router and whenever you switch on the router,it automatically dials you up like an 'always ON' connection

 

[mgcarley]

i know and believe you

was just trying to get an experience of a reliance customer and how they connect


You always say that, but in reality there are only so many modes of connecting to the internet, most of which I do have personal experience with. I wouldn't pipe up if I didn't have some idea of what I was talking about

reliance has bothe wireline adsl and Wimax connections,different departments and they manage and provide services differently

reliance wimax and wimax wireline provide multi-user

but not wireline adsl


can't we make the router do the stuff automatically like in airtel,tata wireline where they insert login details in the router and whenever you switch on the router,it automatically dials you up like an 'always ON' connection

All you need to make any broadband connection a "multi-user" connection is a proper broadband router.

It does the dialling (PPPoE if it's just ethernet, no dialing if it's ADSL because presumably the ADSL modem would handle the PPPoA connectivity... this is after all the primary function, but that too depends on the ADSL modem provided... in some cases you might end up having to buy a separate ADSL modem with 4-port switch and/or WiFi to replace the one the ISP gives you, instead of the router, but the concept is rather the same).

Once connected, all devices connected to that router should be good to go, irrespective of whether it's a computer, wi-fi phone, PS3 or net-enabled refrigerator

 

[brickhouse]

In theory yes, but the CSEs are not supposed to advise how because of this document: Powered by Google Docs

See sections I.a.iv, I.d.iv, I.d.v.

In general, what I said in an earlier post is technically feasible but potentially not 100% "legal", assuming all this is actually legislated and not simply a directive.

one more thing mgcarley,please make your connection always on like AIRTEL and TATA TTML adsl ones.

it will please alot of people

i hate dialups

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You always say that, but in reality there are only so many modes of connecting to the internet, most of which I do have personal experience with. I wouldn't pipe up if I didn't have some idea of what I was talking about





All you need to make any broadband connection a "multi-user" connection is a proper broadband router.

It does the dialling (PPPoE if it's just ethernet, no dialing if it's ADSL because presumably the ADSL modem would handle the PPPoA connectivity... this is after all the primary function, but that too depends on the ADSL modem provided... in some cases you might end up having to buy a separate ADSL modem with 4-port switch and/or WiFi to replace the one the ISP gives you, instead of the router, but the concept is rather the same).

Once connected, all devices connected to that router should be good to go, irrespective of whether it's a computer, wi-fi phone, PS3 or net-enabled refrigerator

like a multiplier right?

and it would do the dialing itslef when it is start

i am only asking because my friend who is on nivyah is trying to do on his single user but is unsuccesfull

the ISP have already connected his Ethernet cable and their main cable from office with a router(multiplier in between) and multi-user isn't possible on that

 

[mgcarley]

one more thing mgcarley,please make your connection always on like AIRTEL and TATA TTML adsl ones.

it will please alot of people

i hate dialups


The router will establish the connection when it is turned on. If the link goes down, it probably means the service is down.

like a multiplier right?


No.

And yes.

No because a simple hub or switch (or cable splitter) will not be sufficient. Yes because a router will typically multiply the number of computers that can utilize the connection.

and it would do the dialing itslef when it is start


Yes.

i am only asking because my friend who is on nivyah is trying to do on his single user but is unsuccesfull

the ISP have already connected his Ethernet cable and their main cable from office with a router(multiplier in between) and multi-user isn't possible on that

Oh rubbish. It so is possible. If you read my posts properly, you'd know this already - to do this, he will need a router, NOT a hub or switch.

2 very different devices, 2 relatively similar functions.

Nivyah will probably be authenticating against the MAC ID of the computer. A normal hub/switch does not have a MAC ID.

For all intensive purposes, this is the fundamental difference why a hub/switch is not sufficient in this case. It's just an elegant way to pass information from one port to another - no actual routing takes place per se.

 

[brickhouse]

The router will establish the connection when it is turned on. If the link goes down, it probably means the service is down.



No.

And yes.

No because a simple hub or switch (or cable splitter) will not be sufficient. Yes because a router will typically multiply the number of computers that can utilize the connection.



Yes.



Oh rubbish. It so is possible. If you read my posts properly, you'd know this already - to do this, he will need a router, NOT a hub or switch.

2 very different devices, 2 relatively similar functions.

Nivyah will probably be authenticating against the MAC ID of the computer. A normal hub/switch does not have a MAC ID.

For all intensive purposes, this is the fundamental difference why a hub/switch is not sufficient in this case. It's just an elegant way to pass information from one port to another - no actual routing takes place per se.

alright so i searched about all the queries and i know now that router can do the stuff?

but still i have a few questions,so please answer:


even if i buy a router the reliance web page login will still be there or not?

can i buy a router with adsl plus normal router capabilities as if i buy an adsl connection then i will have to use the adsl router and then connect it to my normal router?

third can a router also work as a switch,like if i want to use it for using internet on wifi on my laptop and though the ethernet wire on my PC and another ethernet wire on my PS3(i know my PC and PS3 have wifi but this is just query)?


fourth is,my friend who has a nivyah connection,his connection is logged out after some hours even if traffic is happening.he has set his PPOPE setting in his comp as keep redialing if disconnect and this normally happens when network problem from ISP's end or some other problem.but there is an exception,sometimes his connection disconnects when there is no problem from the connection or the line but does not redial,he has to redial manually and the connection works again.how will the router work if this situation arises?