akshay12 said:
would love to create my data backup online than wait for hard disk to crash and me wasting my time recovering whatever data i can ! Plus downloading stuff for my animation will be quite easy with that speed from my institute.
In Finland I used to use Mozy to do a daily backup of my documents. I can dig having cloud-based private backups.
admin said:
looking at the time it took for me to backup my own and wife's flickr accounts. hell yeah.
+1. I felt your pain.
anupcshan said:
Adding to the online backup concept, we could set up some sort of distributed file system (maybe based on DC++ or torrents or something) so that people can stream stuff off each other's computers directly. This would work really well in a LAN environment with low latencies and
gigabit speeds.
Isn't there something like this already available? Well, I'm pretty sure that the software is available, you'd just have to set up the stream and tell people the address.
anupcshan said:
Utility is mostly restricted to streamable content (audio/video). Considering they take up significant portion of hard disk space, you could avoid having to buy a lot of hard disks. Why bother replicating content too many times if one can (almost) always access it online?
+1, but surely a 60TB torrent cache would help
anupcshan said:
This becomes even more interesting if one considers 802.11n etc and wants to do all this on their phone/
tablet device. "Low capacity" flash drive is sufficient to run the whole device.
Our
routers should have 802.11n built in for all your wireless goodness.
raj1402 said:
just now downloaded blu ray movie of files size 45gb on my server 1gbps and 14MBps on avg
it took exactly just an hour to download 45GB
in my home connection ETA 4days
Sounds like fun, but other than piracy, any kind of creative uses?
auroraPWN said:
In india when you go to any normal gaming cafe.. let me give the example of zapak (these are owned privately and operated by reliance 200+ in india) .... there are 20 pc's in the cafe in delhi near Venki college and all they have is a 2mbit line... ! i mean WTF 2mbps for 20pcs?!!.... with that speed like 100mbits or so ... updating games would become a lot easier specially now since many game updates are going to come ... and you have 140 games to update...
1 game update is like 2GB avg...
Bugger that. You'd think they'd supply their own Internet Cafe's with decent lines
Even better if we're hosting mirrors of the game downloads.
auroraPWN said:
secondly what i can think of is providing my own Game Server hosting... instead of paying 20k/month to a company to host a server.. if my users are using the same network then i can host my own game servers with my own better and more powerful pc's
This would be better in a Data Centre or a Corporate connection: SLA SLA SLA. And support from our side. To host a gameserver in our DC we're looking at roughly Rs25k/year + bandwidth, which for a gameserver is pretty minimal.
auroraPWN said:
thirdly for a house having many broadband users it could be a boon... like if 5 people use the internet simultaneously... it could be really helpful... (distributing the bandwidth ofc) but providing HD streaming capability + broadband + voip on one line (useful for corporates)
We've been thinking the same. I know of houses with 3, 4, 5+ Internet Connectable Devices - trying to use the net on existing connections is nothing short of painful.
auroraPWN said:
that's all i can frankly think of ... and with speeds like 1GB/s are mostly going to be used by corp's or mad torrentors... (warez distributors) .... and mg i dont think any reason why we would really need more than 100mbits for home use...
1Gbit/s would be available to home users for the internal part of the network anyway. We rate-limit the traffic to 100mbit/s once it starts to leave the network anyway. Frankly I have no problem with DC++ servers within the network, offering connectivity to our own customers: in addition to our various caches and mirrors, use of such software *can* mitigate our bandwidth costs hugely, and also save you a bundle if you're on a data-plan.
SVK said:
IPTV would be separate, so that anyways cant be considered in 'normal user' broadband connection.
Technically IPTV would take from the available capacity on the line, but it wouldn't normally be noticeable, especially at 1Gbit/s (though the devices themselves can handle up to 2.5Gbit/s anyway (I think), the LAN ports are Gbit only and people have only Gbit network cards, so... there is the limiting factor!)
SVK said:
But after sometime when we have service like
Google TV/
Apple TV and many such Online TV services who depend upon good broadband speed, we would need faster internet
I would hope to peer with or host GoogleTV/AppleTV etc and have it delivered as part of the Hayai Zone.
SVK said:
Also I think your question was more towards home users, so for home users do we really need 1 Gbits/s line? 100 Mbit/s with constant speed and no downtime would be sufficient (?)
Downtime is often hard to predict. We can put in physical security and battery backups, but there are so many other things that can potentially go wrong. Recently, most ISPs in NZ lost all international connectivity because of a powercut to the upstream providers data-center (despite there being only 1 cable in and out of NZ, there are about 4 or 5 resellers of bandwidth on that cable).
SVK said:
And finally what would be its price range for 'home users'?
We've already published our expected prices (subject to change, of course) at
Powered by Google Docs - I'd really like to see 100mbit/s flat rate at around 3k for home users very soon.
auroraPWN said:
HD Streaming would require like i guess 10~15mbits....
Try 40.
auroraPWN said:
@svk is right ... IPTV should not be considered as a service provided by the ISP to the consumer under the normal broadband connection since he would have to pay extra and hence it should be considered as a Value Added service... but yes the advantage of having a 100mbits line is that if the consumer decides to use IPTV... he can do that without having to pay extra for installation(line) and disrupted broadband service while the IPTV works...
Subscribers would get 100mbit/s Internet + necessary bandwidth for IPTV streams - generally speaking we would provide up to 1.25Gbit/s to each subscriber depending on how many IPTV feeds they can receive (that would be enough for 1Gbit/s Local, including 100mbit/s to the Internet, 5 HD IPTV streams and about 500 VOIP lines).
teftar said:
Hosting my web page, Providing XDCC bots,Create a Lan system with centralised storage for offsite back up along with my friends so that we can create a media bank for personal use.
Gaming of course.
Personal web page OK. XDCC bots I think should be OK. Personal storage system should be OK - best of course, if they are all customers too
22karthikreddy said:
If this 100mbit/s really comes.. I'll start up my own public cloud and start offering the services :dance:
We simply wouldn't allow that on a consumer connection.
22karthikreddy said:
Yeah it would be a
business service.. As mg said he is going to offer the broadband in the three to four packages.. I would go with a corporate package(Not sure in which I may end up)..
But my main point is instead we going to some cloud providers like
Amazon or
google why can't we make them available in India itself when such high bandwidths are available like 1Gibt/s to 45 Gibt/s(Seen somewhere in mg post).
I'd really like to see this - cloud hosting in India. I wonder if I should put you in touch with our hosting partner, they might be able to help you get started. And perhaps I should also put you in touch with my good friend Ramine who owns and operates
mysites.com.
And the 40Gbit/s is just the equipment we can put at either end. Of course, these speeds I'm talking about are measured per fiber pair: more fiber pairs = more bandwidth with the same equipment (which may operate at 10, 40 or when it comes out properly 100gbit/s per fiber pair). It's highly dependent on demand, but I'm reasonably sure that even the equipment based on 10Gbit/s will be fine in most cases, based on my discussions with other ISPs.
