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What would you do with a 100mbit/s or 1Gbit/s connection?
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mgcarley
Founder, Hayai Broadband
If you (hayai) launch connections of 100 mbit/s or 1 gbit/s to households, then it would be revolutionary for India.
It may affect other ISPs also. It may also enforce them to lower their prices or increase the speed...
Ideally, what I would like to see as the net result of a successful launch would be:
[*]Other ISPs remove speed-caps from plans where they restrict data, so you get line-speed (could be anything from 2-20mbit/s depending on the quality of your lines, distance from the exchange or DSLAM etc)
[*]I don't expect high-speed "unlimited" plans because of the market that the other ISPs are in and the economics of unlimited plans, but I would hope that FUPs become fairer (8GB at 899 becomes 25GB at 899 or something)
[*]Maybe some better unlimited options in the 1, 2, 4mbit/s range might become available.
[*]BSNL would see the flaws in it's FTTH pricing and instead of charging for every potential GB that a user can transfer on an FTTH connection, they can ascertain average usage per subscriber and charge accordingly, which may lead to a price-war between us and them.
[*]I don't expect prices to change too much overall, just for the value to increase - Instead of providing 2mbit/s with 2.5GB @ Rs599, MTNL might modify it's plan lineup to be half decent, say, 15GB for the same price.
[*]MTNL & Airtel might also modify their VDSL prices. VDSL equipment isn't much more expensive than ADSL equipment - instead of charging 20GB @ 20mbit/s for Rs4999 we might see 20GB @ 20mbit/s for Rs 899 from MTNL and Airtel's 200GB @ 30 or 50mbit/s plans at 7999/8999 might come down to more reasonable levels, say, Rs2999 for the same - again, without the speed restrictions (that idea is just stupid).
[*]"Over-use" charges might come down - instead of being 20, 30, 50 even 80 paise per MB, they should come down to below 10, even 5, MAYBE even 3 paise per MB.
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It may affect other ISPs also. It may also enforce them to lower their prices or increase the speed...
Ideally, what I would like to see as the net result of a successful launch would be:
[*]Other ISPs remove speed-caps from plans where they restrict data, so you get line-speed (could be anything from 2-20mbit/s depending on the quality of your lines, distance from the exchange or DSLAM etc)
[*]I don't expect high-speed "unlimited" plans because of the market that the other ISPs are in and the economics of unlimited plans, but I would hope that FUPs become fairer (8GB at 899 becomes 25GB at 899 or something)
[*]Maybe some better unlimited options in the 1, 2, 4mbit/s range might become available.
[*]BSNL would see the flaws in it's FTTH pricing and instead of charging for every potential GB that a user can transfer on an FTTH connection, they can ascertain average usage per subscriber and charge accordingly, which may lead to a price-war between us and them.
[*]I don't expect prices to change too much overall, just for the value to increase - Instead of providing 2mbit/s with 2.5GB @ Rs599, MTNL might modify it's plan lineup to be half decent, say, 15GB for the same price.
[*]MTNL & Airtel might also modify their VDSL prices. VDSL equipment isn't much more expensive than ADSL equipment - instead of charging 20GB @ 20mbit/s for Rs4999 we might see 20GB @ 20mbit/s for Rs 899 from MTNL and Airtel's 200GB @ 30 or 50mbit/s plans at 7999/8999 might come down to more reasonable levels, say, Rs2999 for the same - again, without the speed restrictions (that idea is just stupid).
[*]"Over-use" charges might come down - instead of being 20, 30, 50 even 80 paise per MB, they should come down to below 10, even 5, MAYBE even 3 paise per MB.
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From a doctor's perspective. Tele-radiology is a big thing. I know of a person who had 128 kbps DSL with a back up 128 kbps way back in 1998 (when I first met him). I would want to explore something similar in my line of work soon; indeed a bandwidth of such magnitude would indeed be God sent. I would need a server to run the software, a back up system for giga bytes of data for every case and of course the bandwidth magic can help me out.
mgcarley
Hey i really saw this for the first time!!
I think, before i put any questions i would go through the related threads.....
But really if what you said, does happen, then it would be a revolution in India for sure!!
---------- Post added at 02:10 AM ---------- Previous post was at 02:08 AM ----------
PS: And i was still feeling guilty for having just one 32.9 GB movie queued up in my torrent, which is taking an eternity - just 3% of it is done rite now (I added it about 2 months back)!!
Hey i really saw this for the first time!!
I think, before i put any questions i would go through the related threads.....
But really if what you said, does happen, then it would be a revolution in India for sure!!
---------- Post added at 02:10 AM ---------- Previous post was at 02:08 AM ----------
PS: And i was still feeling guilty for having just one 32.9 GB movie queued up in my torrent, which is taking an eternity - just 3% of it is done rite now (I added it about 2 months back)!!
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just now downloaded blu ray movie of files size 45gb on my server 1gbps and 14MBps on avg
it took exactly just an hour to download 45GB
in my home connection ETA 4days
Avoid doing so if you have some imp. stuff on those servers.
many advanced data centers (US Based) have a system where they can easily detect incoming pirated stuff, and you can loose the server on such copyright infringement.
no matter it was downloaded as a test or fun, copyrighted material would violate the A.U.P. which is enough for closure of the account.
it took exactly just an hour to download 45GB
in my home connection ETA 4days
Avoid doing so if you have some imp. stuff on those servers.
many advanced data centers (US Based) have a system where they can easily detect incoming pirated stuff, and you can loose the server on such copyright infringement.
no matter it was downloaded as a test or fun, copyrighted material would violate the A.U.P. which is enough for closure of the account.
mgcarley
Founder, Hayai Broadband
From a doctor's perspective. Tele-radiology is a big thing. I know of a person who had 128 kbps DSL with a back up 128 kbps way back in 1998 (when I first met him). I would want to explore something similar in my line of work soon; indeed a bandwidth of such magnitude would indeed be God sent. I would need a server to run the software, a back up system for giga bytes of data for every case and of course the bandwidth magic can help me out.
The bandwidth we can help with... the NAS... potentially we could do that in some kind of cloud arrangement, but I'm not familiar enough with the laws of India surrounding privacy and retention of medical documents to say one-way or the other.
mgcarley
Hey i really saw this for the first time!!
I think, before i put any questions i would go through the related threads.....
But really if what you said, does happen, then it would be a revolution in India for sure!!
It has to. There's no going back.
PS: And i was still feeling guilty for having just one 32.9 GB movie queued up in my torrent, which is taking an eternity - just 3% of it is done rite now (I added it about 2 months back)!!
Yeah I've had a ~36GB torrent in my list for a couple months now, but I'm at about 35%. My main issue is that I only get 75GB of free bandwidth a month in NZ on my ADSL connection, so no matter what the speed, I still have that rather severe limitation.
Maybe when I'm connected to my own network and I'm only paying the wholesale rates for bandwidth I'll be happier about downloading as much as I want whenever I want
Avoid doing so if you have some imp. stuff on those servers.
many advanced data centers (US Based) have a system where they can easily detect incoming pirated stuff, and you can loose the server on such copyright infringement.
no matter it was downloaded as a test or fun, copyrighted material would violate the A.U.P. which is enough for closure of the account.
He may have something like a seedbox (Seedbox.fr - Hébergement de Seedbox)
The bandwidth we can help with... the NAS... potentially we could do that in some kind of cloud arrangement, but I'm not familiar enough with the laws of India surrounding privacy and retention of medical documents to say one-way or the other.
mgcarley
Hey i really saw this for the first time!!
I think, before i put any questions i would go through the related threads.....
But really if what you said, does happen, then it would be a revolution in India for sure!!
It has to. There's no going back.
PS: And i was still feeling guilty for having just one 32.9 GB movie queued up in my torrent, which is taking an eternity - just 3% of it is done rite now (I added it about 2 months back)!!
Yeah I've had a ~36GB torrent in my list for a couple months now, but I'm at about 35%. My main issue is that I only get 75GB of free bandwidth a month in NZ on my ADSL connection, so no matter what the speed, I still have that rather severe limitation.
Maybe when I'm connected to my own network and I'm only paying the wholesale rates for bandwidth I'll be happier about downloading as much as I want whenever I want
Avoid doing so if you have some imp. stuff on those servers.
many advanced data centers (US Based) have a system where they can easily detect incoming pirated stuff, and you can loose the server on such copyright infringement.
no matter it was downloaded as a test or fun, copyrighted material would violate the A.U.P. which is enough for closure of the account.
He may have something like a seedbox (Seedbox.fr - Hébergement de Seedbox)
mgcarley
Founder, Hayai Broadband
if i got 100mbps unlimited connection i will upload or seed to wares or movie sites.
Although we wouldn't necessarily stop you from doing this, we would reserve the right to limit your speeds if your usage affected other customers.
Although we wouldn't necessarily stop you from doing this, we would reserve the right to limit your speeds if your usage affected other customers.
The bandwidth we can help with... the NAS... potentially we could do that in some kind of cloud arrangement, but I'm not familiar enough with the laws of India surrounding privacy and retention of medical documents to say one-way or the other.
Oh, the laws are silent on this count. It entails some out of box thinking by the people who have such systems. I envisage an option where a simultaneous video conferencing were possible (say on one screen) with exchange of data on other. It's doable now but bandwidth is an issue in the present state of affairs. Further, I don't get to store the images; the partnering hospital does. Anyway, that is a separate issue.
Oh, the laws are silent on this count. It entails some out of box thinking by the people who have such systems. I envisage an option where a simultaneous video conferencing were possible (say on one screen) with exchange of data on other. It's doable now but bandwidth is an issue in the present state of affairs. Further, I don't get to store the images; the partnering hospital does. Anyway, that is a separate issue.
mgcarley
Founder, Hayai Broadband
Oh, the laws are silent on this count. It entails some out of box thinking by the people who have such systems. I envisage an option where a simultaneous video conferencing were possible (say on one screen) with exchange of data on other. It's doable now but bandwidth is an issue in the present state of affairs. Further, I don't get to store the images; the partnering hospital does. Anyway, that is a separate issue.
So we take bandwidth out of the equation by providing both parties with a suitable connection, and the partnering hospital can do all the work (of storing the data in question).
So we take bandwidth out of the equation by providing both parties with a suitable connection, and the partnering hospital can do all the work (of storing the data in question).