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Zee Channels Issue on Tata Sky
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dth ops cant carry all channels. for eg Tata Sky has i think 9 transponders so each transponder can carry abt 12-15 channels and max 20 with mpeg4 compression so max 180 channels. but i dont think 180 wud be enough with so many channels coming up.
sun wud be lucky as it doesnt need any transponders for FTA channels.
tatasky have 12 transponders .... Sun will be getting just 7...
sun wud be lucky as it doesnt need any transponders for FTA channels.
tatasky have 12 transponders .... Sun will be getting just 7...
well sun doesnt need to carry FTA channels on its transponders as DD DTH (5 total) is also moving to same satellite. plus if sun is smart they can have mutual tie up with zee dth as dishtv satellite is also almost at same angle so atleast zee channels can be given directly without carrying on personal transponders.
vasanthallies
Newbie
HI guys.Today i saw a news aying that MPEG-4 decoding box is twice costly compared to MPEG-2 boxes. As it is less in production. If SUN DIRECT is released in MPEG-4 then how can they manage to sell a costlier set top box. One more thing is that if sun direct goes for MPEG-4 decoding then such box will not contain any NDS slot as that of Tata Sky and dish tv.
well sun doesnt need to carry FTA channels on its transponders as DD DTH (5 total) is also moving to same satellite. plus if sun is smart they can have mutual tie up with zee dth as dishtv satellite is also almost at same angle so atleast zee channels can be given directly without carrying on personal transponders.
They can access FTA channels of DD DTH(who themsef have patheticn number of channels) but they will not be able to access any channels from other satellite... With a small dish(which they will give to users like tatsky and dishtv) even a 1 degree of difference is more than enough to stop user access channel from any other satellite... Plus Sun will be using mpeg4 for compression so it means they need to have mpeg4 recievers for the dishes... Regular recievers, which r used to recieve signals by Tata Sky and dishtv will not work...
They can access FTA channels of DD DTH(who themsef have patheticn number of channels) but they will not be able to access any channels from other satellite... With a small dish(which they will give to users like tatsky and dishtv) even a 1 degree of difference is more than enough to stop user access channel from any other satellite... Plus Sun will be using mpeg4 for compression so it means they need to have mpeg4 recievers for the dishes... Regular recievers, which r used to recieve signals by Tata Sky and dishtv will not work...
i am not sure how mpeg4 codec can be costlier than mpeg2 as its just needs advanced firmware (software). yes it may need better processor and may be bit more ram but it cant double the cost.
Plus Sun will be using mpeg4 for compression so it means they need to have mpeg4 recievers for the dishes... Regular recievers, which r used to recieve signals by Tata Sky and dishtv will not work...
is it? i thought the dishes (assuming thats what u mean by receiver) just catch waves/digital packets. and mpeg4 is just better compression than mpeg2. dishes just receive binary 0 and 1 bits in any cases. its upto STB. and well sun can give STB which recognizes both mpeg2 and mpeg4 packets(headers). simple. and dishes can be made bit wider, like tatasky which has installed some wider dishes here. and i think DishTV satellite and sun satellite differ by just 0.5 degree not even 1 degree.
update:
Dish TV which was sharing the NSS-6 satellite with DD, will not be hit badly after the migration. Since NSS-6 is at 95 degree East, a minor realignment of antenna will be required for receiving the channels as Insat-4B shall be located at 93.5 degree East.
so as per this link just minor alignment is required on dish.
Plus Sun will be using mpeg4 for compression so it means they need to have mpeg4 recievers for the dishes... Regular recievers, which r used to recieve signals by Tata Sky and dishtv will not work...
is it? i thought the dishes (assuming thats what u mean by receiver) just catch waves/digital packets. and mpeg4 is just better compression than mpeg2. dishes just receive binary 0 and 1 bits in any cases. its upto STB. and well sun can give STB which recognizes both mpeg2 and mpeg4 packets(headers). simple. and dishes can be made bit wider, like tatasky which has installed some wider dishes here. and i think DishTV satellite and sun satellite differ by just 0.5 degree not even 1 degree.
update:
Dish TV which was sharing the NSS-6 satellite with DD, will not be hit badly after the migration. Since NSS-6 is at 95 degree East, a minor realignment of antenna will be required for receiving the channels as Insat-4B shall be located at 93.5 degree East.
so as per this link just minor alignment is required on dish.
vasanthallies
Newbie
HI Yes u r rigth. But just think it of!!! If the compression is high then the decoding at that quality should be done as fast as possible. So naturally u need a far fast processor as that of mpeg2. Hence naturally the cost should go up. Not only that even humax manufactures only 10% of all the boxes with mpeg4 decoding.As far as i got feed back from UK is that if mpeg2 cost you around 150 pounds then mpeg4 cost around 450 pound
oh comeon. i have 800mhz cpu and it play divx pretty well. i think even 600mhz wud suffice when its dedicated just for decoding purposes. even 1Ghz processors now a days are not so costly and that too bulk purchase wud be even cheaper. and i didnt say cost wudnt go up i just said that it cant double.
As far as i got feed back from UK is that if mpeg2 cost you around 150 pounds then mpeg4 cost around 450 pound
in that case i wud just say its the loot in the name of technology.
As far as i got feed back from UK is that if mpeg2 cost you around 150 pounds then mpeg4 cost around 450 pound
in that case i wud just say its the loot in the name of technology.
i am not sure how mpeg4 codec can be costlier than mpeg2 as its just needs advanced firmware (software). yes it may need better processor and may be bit more ram but it cant double the cost.
is it? i thought the dishes (assuming thats what u mean by receiver) just catch waves/digital packets. and mpeg4 is just better compression than mpeg2. dishes just receive binary 0 and 1 bits in any cases. its upto STB. and well sun can give STB which recognizes both mpeg2 and mpeg4 packets(headers). simple. and dishes can be made bit wider, like Tata Sky which has installed some wider dishes here. and i think DishTV satellite and sun satellite differ by just 0.5 degree not even 1 degree.
update:
so as per this link just minor alignment is required on dish.
I am not talking just abt the dish... I am talking abt the LNB... the main reciever (which is attached to the dish).... To catch mpeg4 signals the simple LNB's will not work... The STB comes into play later...
is it? i thought the dishes (assuming thats what u mean by receiver) just catch waves/digital packets. and mpeg4 is just better compression than mpeg2. dishes just receive binary 0 and 1 bits in any cases. its upto STB. and well sun can give STB which recognizes both mpeg2 and mpeg4 packets(headers). simple. and dishes can be made bit wider, like Tata Sky which has installed some wider dishes here. and i think DishTV satellite and sun satellite differ by just 0.5 degree not even 1 degree.
update:
so as per this link just minor alignment is required on dish.
I am not talking just abt the dish... I am talking abt the LNB... the main reciever (which is attached to the dish).... To catch mpeg4 signals the simple LNB's will not work... The STB comes into play later...
dont know much abt LNB but then if LNB can catch mpeg4 cant it catch mpeg2 too? something like all new versions of software are generally reverse compatible with old versions.better comparision: this utstar modems.. they support adsl2+ signals doesnt mean that they dont support adsl2 or adsl. they do. dont they?