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An open letter to Hayai and MG Carley!
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@ NIRVANA 4EVER (VIKKY??) Yes why in the plan its states as FUP, dis is something notorious, as mg stated very clearly " ANTICIPATED", now in the plans its stated as FUP, means something is fishy.
Many of the customers will not be able to understand what "anticipated usage" is, so that is written.
Even if it is written, then it'll not make much of a difference as the values are actually very reasonable, as compared to the existing providers.
---------- Post added at 06:55 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:53 PM ----------
http://www.hayai.in/maintenance/hayai_in_201102.pdf
17 TB with the 150mbps plan?? That should cost around Rs 1,70,000 ! How come so low?
Many of the customers will not be able to understand what "anticipated usage" is, so that is written.
Even if it is written, then it'll not make much of a difference as the values are actually very reasonable, as compared to the existing providers.
---------- Post added at 06:55 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:53 PM ----------
http://www.hayai.in/maintenance/hayai_in_201102.pdf
17 TB with the 150mbps plan?? That should cost around Rs 1,70,000 ! How come so low?
mgcarley
Founder, Hayai Broadband
Like NZ India is planning its National BB policy.
The details are not out yet but only a future tech like FTTH should be implemented.
May be u don't want to say it publicly ....
But are u awaiting for that announcement in march reg. NBP bcoz u might have a problem if u roll out your infrastructure now only to find others competing on govt. built infrastructure at a latter stage?
No, we are not waiting for the government in either country.
The same is not true of many of the organizations in NZ, as many of them were in negotiations to work with the government on their project, however now that the decisions have been made (most of them bad), some of them are working now with Hayai instead.
Besides, NZ isn't looking for it's project to be completed until 2020!!
So why is that HAYAI NZ is charging them 921 INR as monthly charges For 100mbit/s Speeds??
In India hayai is charging 550 as the infrastructure charges monthly??
Our cost per premises is much higher than India because it's far less densely populated.
...Things also cost different amounts of money in NZ. Taxes are different, right of way costs different, cost of fiber between cities is different etc.
https://imgur.com/aQ4GJ
That is how it should be Coming soon in Xyz cities!
The page change was to reflect the requests that we put FAQs at hayai.in so people don't have to read the FAQ thread.
I really don't think it is an issue. First of all the cost structure will be completely different. Secondly, the potential customer's ability to pay will be different and finally and most importantly, the density of potential customers in India cannot be beaten and that must drive down the infrastructure cost on a per customer basis.
My own personal experience in pricing has been that a seller will sell at a price at which he expects enough buyers will find value to buy. That figure is not always related to the cost of providing the product or service.
For us it is quite closely related.
@ NIRVANA 4EVER (VIKKY??) Yes why in the plan its states as FUP, dis is something notorious, as mg stated very clearly " ANTICIPATED", now in the plans its stated as FUP, means something is fishy.
Actually, we have to have FUP in NZ (unfortunately). It's nothing more than a placeholder. Also "Anticipated Usage" didn't fit in the cell. Also it's meaningless to end users. For the most part you should forget about it. I've uploaded a fresh copy with all the numbers fixed.
Many of the customers will not be able to understand what "anticipated usage" is, so that is written.
Even if it is written, then it'll not make much of a difference as the values are actually very reasonable, as compared to the existing providers.
---------- Post added at 06:55 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:53 PM ----------
17 TB with the 150mbps plan?? That should cost around Rs 1,70,000 ! How come so low?
It's been fixed.
about the night flat rate .. Night unlimited and DAY Mentioned GB's?
It was referencing the wrong cell. Anyone who did the math would be able to work out that at full speed, the numbers in that box would equal 9 hours a day for 30 days.
((((450*5)*9)*30)/1024) - that is - ((((450 mbytes an hour at 1mbit/s * 5mbit/s)*9 hours a day)*30 days)/1024MB in a GB)
The details are not out yet but only a future tech like FTTH should be implemented.
May be u don't want to say it publicly ....
But are u awaiting for that announcement in march reg. NBP bcoz u might have a problem if u roll out your infrastructure now only to find others competing on govt. built infrastructure at a latter stage?
No, we are not waiting for the government in either country.
The same is not true of many of the organizations in NZ, as many of them were in negotiations to work with the government on their project, however now that the decisions have been made (most of them bad), some of them are working now with Hayai instead.
Besides, NZ isn't looking for it's project to be completed until 2020!!
So why is that HAYAI NZ is charging them 921 INR as monthly charges For 100mbit/s Speeds??
In India hayai is charging 550 as the infrastructure charges monthly??
Our cost per premises is much higher than India because it's far less densely populated.
...Things also cost different amounts of money in NZ. Taxes are different, right of way costs different, cost of fiber between cities is different etc.
https://imgur.com/aQ4GJ
That is how it should be Coming soon in Xyz cities!
The page change was to reflect the requests that we put FAQs at hayai.in so people don't have to read the FAQ thread.
I really don't think it is an issue. First of all the cost structure will be completely different. Secondly, the potential customer's ability to pay will be different and finally and most importantly, the density of potential customers in India cannot be beaten and that must drive down the infrastructure cost on a per customer basis.
My own personal experience in pricing has been that a seller will sell at a price at which he expects enough buyers will find value to buy. That figure is not always related to the cost of providing the product or service.
For us it is quite closely related.
@ NIRVANA 4EVER (VIKKY??) Yes why in the plan its states as FUP, dis is something notorious, as mg stated very clearly " ANTICIPATED", now in the plans its stated as FUP, means something is fishy.
Actually, we have to have FUP in NZ (unfortunately). It's nothing more than a placeholder. Also "Anticipated Usage" didn't fit in the cell. Also it's meaningless to end users. For the most part you should forget about it. I've uploaded a fresh copy with all the numbers fixed.
Many of the customers will not be able to understand what "anticipated usage" is, so that is written.
Even if it is written, then it'll not make much of a difference as the values are actually very reasonable, as compared to the existing providers.
---------- Post added at 06:55 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:53 PM ----------
17 TB with the 150mbps plan?? That should cost around Rs 1,70,000 ! How come so low?
It's been fixed.
about the night flat rate .. Night unlimited and DAY Mentioned GB's?
It was referencing the wrong cell. Anyone who did the math would be able to work out that at full speed, the numbers in that box would equal 9 hours a day for 30 days.
((((450*5)*9)*30)/1024) - that is - ((((450 mbytes an hour at 1mbit/s * 5mbit/s)*9 hours a day)*30 days)/1024MB in a GB)
It was referencing the wrong cell. Anyone who did the math would be able to work out that at full speed, the numbers in that box would equal 9 hours a day for 30 days.
((((450*5)*9)*30)/1024) - that is - ((((450 mbytes an hour at 1mbit/s * 5mbit/s)*9 hours a day)*30 days)/1024MB in a GB)
Referring to the Night flat rate...
5mbit/s @ 1500 that for 9 hours a day and if u pay more 500 Full 24 hours.. Man does it make anysense to you now? why would any one take night flat rate?
and hayai.co.nz Still Fup limits are clearly mentioned over in that nz pricelist. I am confused here cant trust unless some one takes and reviews out the connection!!
---------- Post added at 10:37 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:36 PM ----------
user reviews........???
the service is not yet is launched how can any one review it? lmao
---------- Post added at 10:38 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:37 PM ----------
Did you not read any of my previous post?
So its Fixed .. Right?
---------- Post added at 10:40 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:38 PM ----------
Regarding the fibre cost .. if you are providing internet via FIBER it should not costs u much and i have no clue why u charge 1100 For installation??? It should be done in 500-600Max, I am unaware of the equipments of urs!!
((((450*5)*9)*30)/1024) - that is - ((((450 mbytes an hour at 1mbit/s * 5mbit/s)*9 hours a day)*30 days)/1024MB in a GB)
Referring to the Night flat rate...
5mbit/s @ 1500 that for 9 hours a day and if u pay more 500 Full 24 hours.. Man does it make anysense to you now? why would any one take night flat rate?
and hayai.co.nz Still Fup limits are clearly mentioned over in that nz pricelist. I am confused here cant trust unless some one takes and reviews out the connection!!
---------- Post added at 10:37 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:36 PM ----------
user reviews........???
the service is not yet is launched how can any one review it? lmao
---------- Post added at 10:38 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:37 PM ----------
Did you not read any of my previous post?
So its Fixed .. Right?
---------- Post added at 10:40 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:38 PM ----------
Regarding the fibre cost .. if you are providing internet via FIBER it should not costs u much and i have no clue why u charge 1100 For installation??? It should be done in 500-600Max, I am unaware of the equipments of urs!!
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