Can't or shouldn't we go to the court for increasing the min. speed of broadbad to 2 mbps?

[viking004]

"TRAI set the minimum speed required to be sold as broadband at 256 kbps. Now it wants to update it to 2 mbps. But ISPs are opposing the move and have used their lobby to stall the reforms. The problem is that after reforms, no ISP in India will be able to sell plans with FUP that reduces speed to 256 kbps and label it as broadband. FUP pretty much nullifies the growth we have made over the last couple of years"

Caught in the Net of slow broadband - The Times of India

Now when the BSNL has applied FUP,,and sadly but certainly the MTNL will follow soon (in fact i think MTNL have started working on it,,the recent speed fluctuations may be the reason for this,,,,,,,,and today i am not getting more than 32kBps on my utorrent,,)

The resolution of online videos and photos are increasing day by day ,it's being difficult to just browse the social networking sites like FB,and it is becoming harder and harder(5 mp camera phones are just too common now ),,,,,,,,,BUT when whole IT world is growing exponentially,the growth of broadband in india is being stunted by the ISP's here,we have TRAI to regulate them but it seems that the thing is going other way as the ISP's lobby is regulating the TRAI, and some time this lobby also regulate the GOvt. ISP's (bsnl & mtnl)..

The court seems to be the only option available NOW.

 

[Sushubh]

haha. you are quoting my line telecom is not a basic necessasity. you cannot DEMAND cheap broadband connectivity.

 

[viking004]

there should be a way:confuser are we bound to suffer ?anything against trai or whatever,,,,,PIL etc.?leasehelp:

 

[mgcarley]

Bound to suffer until a foreign player finally enters the market...

 

[reshapco]

Bound to suffer until a foreign player finally enters the market...

But I think *foreign player* has entered the market

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Actually big broadband providers should start business in India by launching no speed of less than 1 gbps unlimited at around 2500-3000. I know this would need investment of around $1000 Million but it I guess that would be ecnomical if broadband get reach out to every household in India.

 

[india294]

I think foreign players must enter the market.

 

[mgcarley]

But I think *foreign player* has entered the market

Who are you thinking of?

Actually big broadband providers should start business in India by launching no speed of less than 1 gbps unlimited at around 2500-3000.

Unfortunately your government won't let a foreign operator run his own international gateway (it's written in to the license somewhere), therefore making anything like 1Gbit/s unlimited at 2,500-3,000 impossible - otherwise Singtel surely would have done it ages ago. We're trying to find a way around this because the opportunity *is* there for an Indian player with sufficient capital.

That said, even Sweden and Finland don't get such low prices (1Gbit/s is still all the way up at Rs6,000 or 99EUR) so India won't see flat-rate 1Gbit/s for a while at these prices, though I'd like to introduce 100mbit/s flat-rate pricing at Rs5000 or so in the first half of 2011.

I know this would need investment of around $1000 Million but it I guess that would be ecnomical if broadband get reach out to every household in India.

You'd be surprised how not-difficult it is to get hold of money when you're building a communications network and $1 billion would be just a start, and it wouldn't be sufficient to build a cable capable of 1Gbit/s to every broadband subscriber in India, and even then you'd have no spare change to cover the cost of building the city infrastructure. We're estimating build costs of about $250-300 million by the time we finish blanketing Mumbai only - forget Delhi-NCR, Chennai, Bangalore, Kolkata, Pune and even the rural places!

I think foreign players must enter the market.

There are foreign IPLC operators in the market, however they're all tied up with Airtel or Tata (here's looking at you, Reach), so the pricing is roughly the same.

A lot of thing need to change to make 2mbit/s happen properly - I've written about what and how in other threads and at http://broadbandblog.in/993-the-most-hated-thing-about-indian-broadband

 

[reshapco]

Who are you thinking of?

Unfortunately your government won't let a foreign operator run his own international gateway (it's written in to the license somewhere), therefore making anything like 1Gbit/s unlimited at 2,500-3,000 impossible - otherwise Singtel surely would have done it ages ago. We're trying to find a way around this because the opportunity *is* there for an Indian player with sufficient capital.



I suppose its Govt. Lobby that would not allow such things, but I am sure no govt. remains forever. To do something surely you need to bribe Indian politics (in Shivaji the Boss also same thing happens) but what is important here is that best consumer service by competing other providers rather than making cartel with them.

And about what I am thinking off ? then *you* know better than me.

Actually my estimate of $1 Billion was reasonable comparing my limited knowledge and ignorance. I know investment might be bigger but there are ample opportunities in India (de facto I guess)

 

[mgcarley]

I suppose its Govt. Lobby that would not allow such things, but I am sure no govt. remains forever. To do something surely you need to bribe Indian politics (in Shivaji the Boss also same thing happens) but what is important here is that best consumer service by competing other providers rather than making cartel with them.

And about what I am thinking off ? then *you* know better than me.

Actually my estimate of $1 Billion was reasonable comparing my limited knowledge and ignorance. I know investment might be bigger but there are ample opportunities in India (de facto I guess)

Yes. The bribes I'm discovering to my cost.

Your estimate was surely just an arbitrary number that sounded big until I pointed out that in this industry, it really isn't!

It's OK though - I wouldn't have fathomed it until I found out the same for myself. I still get to learn something new about the ISP industry (and/or it's consumers) every day.

 

[ranjittech]

As far as SPEED is concerned, there was an article in TOI in Feb 2010 regarding some Technology being tested which will give 200MBPS. Here is the article. Any update on this??

Net connection through power lines on the cards - The Times of India