uberjon said:
In case you don't know this, there are CAT 3, 5 etc cables that are meant for called outdoor use. That is how SO MANY PEOPLE get their telephone & internet. Are you saying that the cables need to be replaced every year?? Check yourself. DO NOT make blanket statements like 'CAT 3,5,6 cables aren't good outside'.
CAT 3, 5, 6 are twisted unshielded cables and aren't used outside. CAT 3, 5, 6 are used indoor from splitter/junction box to modems and are hardly a few meters long. All companies use shielded and non-twisted cables.
Lets see,
1. BSNL uses a pair copper cable that's not twisted but is shielded using some sort of fibre line running in the middle (not CAT3). Due to insufficient bandwidth throughput of copper wires, they are providing shielded fibre optic nowadays (not cat 3)
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TATA uses spatial made in goa cable to carry the internet, it's a pair of copper cable shielded using a strong steel wire (not cat3). Their leased line and high speed docomo connections are provided by shielded fibre optic though (not cat3)
3. Hathway in its infancy used coaxial cable (not a CAT3) then they used WAN cable like tata (not CAT3) at some place nowadays docsis is a fibre optic connection (not CAT3)
4. Reliance uses some sort of thick cable (up to the junction box) that can be used underground (definitely not CATs)
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1. Even though with Tikona where 99% of distance is covered wirelessly for last 1% they use CAT6 (with PoE). For the last two years I have a tikona connection, during this time this cat 6 developed a crazy slackness which got it tangled up by a passerby truck. They had to replace snapped cable, broken outdoor modem, POE transmitter.
2. Airtel is also mostly wireless. For their indoor modem to computer connection they do provide 2 meter CAT 3 cable with CAT 6 connectors(cost cutting) exactly like manoj suggested.
3. Reliance uses cat 6 (or 5 donno exactly) cable from their junction box (placed on the same storey/building terrace/parking) but it's all indoor again. So does hathway, hayate (don't remember exact name) and probably rest of the ISPs
4. TATA uses 1 meter CAT 3 cable from the splitter to modem. From modem to a computer they provide 1 meter long CAT5/6 cable (like shown in my picture in first post).
5. BSNL --------------------------------------------------------------------------------"--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
As you can see, none of the ISP/telcos are stupid to provide entire connection on just CAT 3, 5, 6 cables.
Please go through this FCC documentation >
http://transition.fcc.gov/omd/history/internet/documents/display_case.pdf jump to second page.
Probably Tikona is largest outdoor user of CAT 6 for their connections and may be that's why they are the best broadband provider in India, No?
CAT 6 is very cool cable however, it does support throughput up to 10 gigabits per second. I know this because I have 10 Gbps network between my workstations (at point A). If CAT 6 can support such heavy bandwidth then why don't ISPs use that instead of shielded fibre optic considering CAT 6 is cheaper than shielded fibre optic? The reason is very simple, it's not meant to use outside.
Now this is where a user in my position generally posts
"Get your facts right before posting", But I'm not posting that. I believe forums are for knowledge transfer. No one has all the knowledge of the world. Everyone does commit mistake sometime and it can be corrected by a friendly advice. There's no need for personal attacks.
I'm not a newbie on the internet/forum systems. It does however saddens me when attacks/egos starts appearing in the middle of nowhere.
uberjon said:
All of a sudden you say street lamp poles. How did this suddenly come up? Are you planning to run (indoor) cat 3 cable from one building to another? I wonder what else you missed to mention? Anyway, this is getting old really fast.
The clue is in my first post itself where I've mentioned the distance between A & B points is about 100 meters. Now, did you think those A & B points are in my house? Do I look like a guy who owns the buckingham palace?
I don't even know what's the exact distance between point A and point B. It could be more than 100 meters. It's common knowledge that CAT cables can't carry signal that far without a reapeter, so it shouldn't have been a suggestion in the first place. I didn't mention street poles because that's irrelevant to this discussion.
If you must know point A is my bungalow at one end of the road and point B is my friends bungalow at the other end of the road.
uberjon said:
No point being here.. Unsubscribing from thread.
Good idea! The thread got side tracked due to too much irrelevant discussion.
If I wanted suggestion on alternatives I'd asked the suggestions on alternatives in the first post itself. My queries are very specific on what I want to know.
I know what are the alternatives ( even remote ones) as I'm few steps ahead in that department. Thanks for your valuable time though.
