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Have we reached a saturation point for broadband speeds in India?
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Current tax structure for ISPs don't support national broadband mission so hopefully when tax is reduced considerably then we will see positive changes. As of now tax on broadband is higher than AC that's why we are still stuck on pppoe (as per windows it is dial up network).
Bandwidth doesn't cost much but inclusive router cost, then cost of OLT, ont and other supporting gear cost is insane when you move to newer technology.
Bandwidth doesn't cost much but inclusive router cost, then cost of OLT, ont and other supporting gear cost is insane when you move to newer technology.
But yeah good for their 
bold of you to think tax deductions would be passed along to the consumers. some ISPs and their users consider pppoe as a new gen tech (alliance broadband). Jio is the sole DHCP service isp in india and IIRC DHCP is much less resource intensive than PPPOE. If we get rid of our jugaad ways only then can we think about multi gig broadband in india
Kyle Crane
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So is PPPOE bad?
another encapsulation layer which takes cpu cycles, not an issue for current speed and hardware but limits mtu to 1492/1480 which breaks a lot of things even with PMTUD enabled.
for ISPs like Airtel it would be difficult to upgrade from PPPoE as they would have to run two parallel stacks to continue supporting PPPoE as well for current customers.
All current routers and ONTs released in the past decade support DHCP-based internet sessions. It's their core routers that are so dependent on MTUs and their OMS that ties user sessions to PPPoE. The core routers need to be upgraded in a few years anyways, so we can hope for wider deployments of DHCP and IPv6 large packet based networks in 3-4 years time. If they hire smarter network engineers, we may even see ipv6-only access networks for fiber broadband and FWA. Mobile has already transitioned.
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Smaller ISPs even block ICMP messages so when packet size is large it gets into blackhole and website breaks, faced a lot with telegram, jiotv, vowifi on Jio sim
Indian consumers are actually smarter than what people give them credit for.
Almost nobody needs speeds more than 100-200 Mbps.2,5,10 Gbps plans available in places like Singapore, EU and Japan are completely pointless for 99.9% of the people.
What needs to be prioritized is:
1. Make WiFi6 equipment mandatory<This also addresses spectrum efficiency besides speed>.Lack of a WiFi6 router is the #1 bottleneck to a quality internet experience.
2. Better network planning so that real speed(not just to local/peered sites) is at least 100 Mbps. This is the #2 bottleneck
3. FUP needs to be increased to at least 10 GB/month OR at least have a data roll over facility with a max cap of 10 GB.
4. Base speed needs to be 100 Mbps. Excitel has already implemented this years ago. This needs to be the minimum speed for a wired
connection to be called a broadband.
Almost nobody needs speeds more than 100-200 Mbps.2,5,10 Gbps plans available in places like Singapore, EU and Japan are completely pointless for 99.9% of the people.
What needs to be prioritized is:
1. Make WiFi6 equipment mandatory<This also addresses spectrum efficiency besides speed>.Lack of a WiFi6 router is the #1 bottleneck to a quality internet experience.
2. Better network planning so that real speed(not just to local/peered sites) is at least 100 Mbps. This is the #2 bottleneck
3. FUP needs to be increased to at least 10 GB/month OR at least have a data roll over facility with a max cap of 10 GB.
4. Base speed needs to be 100 Mbps. Excitel has already implemented this years ago. This needs to be the minimum speed for a wired
connection to be called a broadband.
