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MTNL DELHI NEW 4Mbps BROADBAND PLANS
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suryansh.gupta
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^^^ lolz
mgcarley
Founder, Hayai Broadband
Its all crap !
If they really want to increase the speeds then they should do it for unlimited plans !
4 mbps with 7 GB cap can be finished in a single day !
3.5-4 hours, by my calculations (~450mbytes/hour at 1mbit/s = 1.8gbytes/hour at 4mbit/s = 7/1.8 = 3.889, or about 3h 53m give or take a few seconds).
@mgcarley: you are right above 100GB @ Paisa 2.5 per MB total CRAP. better if they do something for unlimited Plans
LOL 7GB i bet will finish within hour
2.5p per MB still only comes out at Rs25ish per GB which is quite reasonable... BUT as I mentioned in my previous post I don't think you'd get that pricing until you had already downloaded 100+Gbytes, by which time, as I pointed out, you'd already owe 7500 or so due to previous GBs costing Rs200 each and slowly working their way down in cost from there.
I just don't understand why MTNL (and others) ****ing does this. On data plans, they should not cap speed. You know what the difference between 2 and 4 mbit/s is?
This command in the software (for the user's port at the DSLAM) is something like:
rate-limit output 2000000 50000 200000 conform-action transmit exceed-action dropinstead of
Assuming, of course, a minimum throughput of 512k or so. The gear is not different. The copper is not different. Nothing is different... except the cost (with many ISPs). RATE LIMITING DATA PLANS IS A STUPID IDEA.
They should just uncap the speeds so that the rate the customer get is entirely dependent on the quality of his line... ahh... that must be why they don't do that!! "My friend has the same plan and he gets 6mbit/s while I only get 3.5..." - which would force them to upgrade/maintain their 40-50 year old last mile copper... of course, they should do that anyway, but still. It would make plans way way less confusing.
Definitely this plan is not for *ahem* us but i know many people who just want fast speeds and what they do is just social networking/emails ... so it is good for them.
Granted, but it's expensive for what it is. I think this plan only solves a problem for those who are currently on plans with smaller limits (Rs599 for 2.5GB for example) who end up doing 3.5 to 4GB a month at Rs500 per GB... the problem is, my observation the mentality of many customers is that they do not want to commit to a higher priced plan in case they don't use it...
yeah..but 4mbps connection is too much for browsing for social networkin sites...I think it is the crappiest plan launched by MTNL in recent times.
Additionally, this plan actually merely replaces an IDENTICAL plan with an identical 7GB cap which was previously at 2mbit/s for the same price. WTF MTNL. #fail.
If they really want to increase the speeds then they should do it for unlimited plans !
4 mbps with 7 GB cap can be finished in a single day !
3.5-4 hours, by my calculations (~450mbytes/hour at 1mbit/s = 1.8gbytes/hour at 4mbit/s = 7/1.8 = 3.889, or about 3h 53m give or take a few seconds).
@mgcarley: you are right above 100GB @ Paisa 2.5 per MB total CRAP. better if they do something for unlimited Plans
LOL 7GB i bet will finish within hour
2.5p per MB still only comes out at Rs25ish per GB which is quite reasonable... BUT as I mentioned in my previous post I don't think you'd get that pricing until you had already downloaded 100+Gbytes, by which time, as I pointed out, you'd already owe 7500 or so due to previous GBs costing Rs200 each and slowly working their way down in cost from there.
I just don't understand why MTNL (and others) ****ing does this. On data plans, they should not cap speed. You know what the difference between 2 and 4 mbit/s is?
This command in the software (for the user's port at the DSLAM) is something like:
rate-limit output 2000000 50000 200000 conform-action transmit exceed-action dropinstead of
Code:
rate-limit output 4000000 50000 400000 conform-action transmit exceed-action dropThey should just uncap the speeds so that the rate the customer get is entirely dependent on the quality of his line... ahh... that must be why they don't do that!! "My friend has the same plan and he gets 6mbit/s while I only get 3.5..." - which would force them to upgrade/maintain their 40-50 year old last mile copper... of course, they should do that anyway, but still. It would make plans way way less confusing.
Definitely this plan is not for *ahem* us but i know many people who just want fast speeds and what they do is just social networking/emails ... so it is good for them.
Granted, but it's expensive for what it is. I think this plan only solves a problem for those who are currently on plans with smaller limits (Rs599 for 2.5GB for example) who end up doing 3.5 to 4GB a month at Rs500 per GB... the problem is, my observation the mentality of many customers is that they do not want to commit to a higher priced plan in case they don't use it...
yeah..but 4mbps connection is too much for browsing for social networkin sites...I think it is the crappiest plan launched by MTNL in recent times.
Additionally, this plan actually merely replaces an IDENTICAL plan with an identical 7GB cap which was previously at 2mbit/s for the same price. WTF MTNL. #fail.
Additionally, this plan actually merely replaces an IDENTICAL plan with an identical 7GB cap which was previously at 2mbit/s for the same price. WTF MTNL. #fail.
How does that make it worse than before? I am not saying this plan is good. I am not saying I am jumping on to this plan. I am not batting for MTNL here but I don't see why this plan is drawing so much flak when it is just a speed boost of an old plan at no additional cost.
It isn't logical for a typical IBFer but it does no harm to the guy who was on the previous 2 mbps plan does it?
How does that make it worse than before? I am not saying this plan is good. I am not saying I am jumping on to this plan. I am not batting for MTNL here but I don't see why this plan is drawing so much flak when it is just a speed boost of an old plan at no additional cost.
It isn't logical for a typical IBFer but it does no harm to the guy who was on the previous 2 mbps plan does it?
mgcarley
Founder, Hayai Broadband
How does that make it worse than before? I am not saying this plan is good. I am not saying I am jumping on to this plan. I am not batting for MTNL here but I don't see why this plan is drawing so much flak when it is just a speed boost of an old plan at no additional cost.
It isn't logical for a typical IBFer but it does no harm to the guy who was on the previous 2 mbps plan does it?
It's only worse than an "unlimited" plan with an FUP, not worse than the plan it's replacing (and even then, one presumes that users on the existing 2mbit/s plan are NOT upgraded automatically). You're quite right in that a speed-boost never hurt anyone, however, realistically speaking, this plan is not an upgrade, except in the number of mbit/s that is advertised.
For simple most applications except actual downloading (which you can't really do much of anyway), users are not going to notice a significant difference - Youtube might load a bit faster but whoopdi-freaking-do.
For 849 you'd think they could at least increase the data-limit as well to something like 20GB or so, but 7? Pffrt. Knowing MTNL's approximate costs, that's very, very stingy of them.
Even Airtel's 4mbit/s 899 with 8GB FUP plan is better in this respect - at least you get 256kbit/s afterwards and don't have to pay extra, and given that the quality of service is more-or-less the same no matter which plan you're on (with MTNL), I'd suggest that for this price, most users are better-off getting the 1mbit/s unlimited at 999 or even 512k unlimited for Rs599.
Put simply, I just can not see the point of this plan considering the points I have raised in previous posts.
It isn't logical for a typical IBFer but it does no harm to the guy who was on the previous 2 mbps plan does it?
It's only worse than an "unlimited" plan with an FUP, not worse than the plan it's replacing (and even then, one presumes that users on the existing 2mbit/s plan are NOT upgraded automatically). You're quite right in that a speed-boost never hurt anyone, however, realistically speaking, this plan is not an upgrade, except in the number of mbit/s that is advertised.
For simple most applications except actual downloading (which you can't really do much of anyway), users are not going to notice a significant difference - Youtube might load a bit faster but whoopdi-freaking-do.
For 849 you'd think they could at least increase the data-limit as well to something like 20GB or so, but 7? Pffrt. Knowing MTNL's approximate costs, that's very, very stingy of them.
Even Airtel's 4mbit/s 899 with 8GB FUP plan is better in this respect - at least you get 256kbit/s afterwards and don't have to pay extra, and given that the quality of service is more-or-less the same no matter which plan you're on (with MTNL), I'd suggest that for this price, most users are better-off getting the 1mbit/s unlimited at 999 or even 512k unlimited for Rs599.
Put simply, I just can not see the point of this plan considering the points I have raised in previous posts.
4mbps itself is a big thing but i wish the GB rates started in reverse 2.5 paise for 7-10 gb .... 20 paise for above 100 gb.my usage is usually 10-15 gb pm on 512 kbps. with the new plan (reverse rates) i would have jumped since it would cost me:-850+75+200+300+=1425 for 20 gb @ 4mbpsversus actually850+600+750+625=2825 for 20 gb @ 4mbpsso the entry into this plan is too expensive for anyone looking for a good deal/upgrade.
mgcarley
Founder, Hayai Broadband
4mbps itself is a big thing but i wish the GB rates started in reverse 2.5 paise for 7-10 gb .... 20 paise for above 100 gb.
my usage is usually 10-15 gb pm on 512 kbps. with the new plan (reverse rates) i would have jumped since it would cost me:-
850+75+200+300+=1425 for 20 gb @ 4mbps
versus actually
850+600+750+625=2825 for 20 gb @ 4mbps
so the entry into this plan is too expensive for anyone looking for a good deal/upgrade.
As I was saying...
The only thing this upgrade is going to do is finish the data limit faster than before !
My point exactly.
my usage is usually 10-15 gb pm on 512 kbps. with the new plan (reverse rates) i would have jumped since it would cost me:-
850+75+200+300+=1425 for 20 gb @ 4mbps
versus actually
850+600+750+625=2825 for 20 gb @ 4mbps
so the entry into this plan is too expensive for anyone looking for a good deal/upgrade.
As I was saying...
The only thing this upgrade is going to do is finish the data limit faster than before !
My point exactly.
Put simply, I just can not see the point of this plan considering the points I have raised in previous posts.
TBH neither can I. To each his own poison I say.
4mbps itself is a big thing but i wish the GB rates started in reverse 2.5 paise for 7-10 gb .... 20 paise for above 100 gb.
That is not business but social justice. It is what they do with electricity tariffs to keep it cheaper for lower income groups and get the rich to pay for the poor.
TBH neither can I. To each his own poison I say.
4mbps itself is a big thing but i wish the GB rates started in reverse 2.5 paise for 7-10 gb .... 20 paise for above 100 gb.
That is not business but social justice. It is what they do with electricity tariffs to keep it cheaper for lower income groups and get the rich to pay for the poor.