National Broadband Plan, TRAI and the Indian broadband customer

[mgcarley]

Fiber may be failure in my area due to several reasons, but wireless will work.

The main cost of any fiber project is the civil works and right-of-way.

If there were cables running nearby your place anyway, putting in a splice and an FDH (fiber distribution hub) costs very little money - about 1-2 hours of a technicians time (if the rest of the cables between there and your home are pre-terminated) plus equipment & cables.

FTTx in a PON (passive optical network) configuration allows us to do cable runs up to 20km without repeaters using standard equipment (up to 60km is available with different equipment) so distribution usually requires no electricity between our office and your house (unlike copper).

In a way, fiber is actually an extraordinarily effective last-mile solution in rural areas - both in cost and in speed.

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Of course, if all else fails, we could put a wireless antenna *somewhere* nearby - in your case, maybe at that polytechnic I see on the map or maybe somewhere there is an existing cellphone tower (the actual location would be subject to surveys and all that stuff).

 

[kunalgautam]

The main cost of any fiber project is the civil works and right-of-way.

If there were cables running nearby your place anyway, putting in a splice and an FDH (fiber distribution hub) costs very little money - about 1-2 hours of a technicians time (if the rest of the cables between there and your home are pre-terminated) plus equipment & cables.

No cables running nearby, Plus damages made to cable will be high if laid outside. And afaik its costly to dig and lay cable


I see on the map or maybe somewhere there is an existing cellphone tower (the actual location would be subject to surveys and all that stuff).
Yes I can see 7-8 Cell towers withing 1Km of Sight(from my house) .

 

[mgcarley]

No cables running nearby

I'm talking about OUR cables when we are laying in Pune.

Plus damages made to cable will be high if laid outside.

That's why we buy armour-plated cables *and* PVC piping for laying cables outside... that's a mandatory thing anyway (provides protection against rodents and such, as well as physical security in case of something like a car accident or natural disaster)... and if there are sewers/brownwater systems where you are, then it can be even cheaper for us to lay fiber (no digging).

And afaik its costly to dig and lay cable

That's what I meant by civil works and right of way, yes - but it's all relative. What I'm saying is that if, for example, we have to lay cables between the airport and the polytechnic (using your location as an example), then providing you with FTTx service would not add significant financial outlay.

Yes I can see 7-8 Cell towers withing 1Km of Sight(from my house) .

Handy. The question then is whose towers are they - do they belong to a particular provider or are they leased from one of the tower companies who will lease tower-space to pretty much anyone? (we can find this out when we need to know)

 

[kunalgautam]

for example, we have to lay cables between the airport and the polytechnic (using your location as an example), then providing you with FTTx service would not add significant financial outlay.

I wish/hope so

 

[Sushubh]

hah. CCAOI hails the TRAI Recommendation -A landmark for Broadband Penetration in India

 

[jdjain3]

well well , i too read the Trai consultancy paper, and i found out following things1st: In keeping future demand of broadband , we must ensure a minimum speed of 2mbps till 2014 2nd: evey major and developed country are allready or in progress of laying down fiber optics cable, by this they can give broadband speed of average 20mbps, 3rd: in DSL 2 to 4 mbps is possible , which will not sufficeint in future, because Hard killed applications needs beyond 10mbps4rth: India should start a program for laying Fiber optics to all villages and town , Total cost as per all inclusive Rs60000Crore including Give upway charges , and laying down work must be give to unemployed person using NAREGA

 

[shashankre]

Rs.60000 crore fibre lay-out?Well, i can already see another scam in our country :!

 

[asarin4]

by when will this be implemented

 

[jdjain3]

with in next 4 year , and may be completed by 2014 , because optical fiber is already in india , but the end user does not have access to OF

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well 2G indeed is not a scam , it leads to cheap voice call and cheap std calls and roaming too (sms too)

so after all, Public benefit , if 2G spectrum auctioned then amazed what will happen !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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in this report , Trai clearly told that wireless technology has limitation. it can not provide always on connectivity which is vital for some kind of application,
So ultimate goal is lay Fiber optic to all district cum villages

 

[mgcarley]

in this report , Trai clearly told that wireless technology has limitation. it can not provide always on connectivity which is vital for some kind of application,
So ultimate goal is lay Fiber optic to all district cum villages

I just hope they don't do a half-assed job of it. The way it was described in the document sounds a bit... not good, however it may be the only way it can work in India considering the other infrastructure available (or not, as the case may be) - can't exactly deploy remote access equipment easily if there's nothing to power it (of course, solar panels and battery backups can help but then it becomes a little costly).

I would hope that, instead of using the numbers they've got there (with contentions of 1:10 then a village will need just 8mbit/s of backbone!!) that they just put as much through as they can. It doesn't cost any different. It's fiber, why talk about limitations? This stuff will handle 100Gigabits per second per fiber pair if you want it to (backbone cables should have 96 or more pairs, so thats a shitload of potential bandwidth they could have going around).

While BSNL still talks about having STM-16's (2.5Gbit/s) on it's backbone, one of the China telecoms announced nearly 2 years ago that it has over 320Gbit/s. If I were better at reading Simplified Chinese I'd point you at ?????????? which has some information (the English site doesn't work properly)