Basically BSNL doesn't have many routes to Tier 2 or Tier 3networks .. this makes its long latency ... even over a Fiber ..
BSNL *is* a Tier 2 network -
Tata is the only provider with Tier 1 status in India. Furthermore, BSNL has some of the best peering (outside of India) - the rest for which it just relies on it's upstream (mainly Tata).
try to ping to rcom.co.in which has a reliance site located in Mumbai .... over my
ADSL line i get about 100 ms to respond ...
Ouch. You should really look in to that if you're even within 1,000km of Mumbai. I get 6-7ms to rcom.co.in.
if u get the same responce time , think they have glued the ADSL traffic and Fiber traffic .. u can't do much about it .. seriously nothing can be done to it ...
In Europe , ISP's have a separate network for fiber to achieve those low latency ...
I hope you are only talking about the last mile (cabinet to user) and not suggesting that European ISPs utilize a completely separate network between the CO and the user!
European ISPs utilize the same fiber to get from the CO to the cabinets, from which only the cable between the home and the cabinet is different, and the Australian and NZ NBN networks currently being built are following that same standard: the new cabling being done merely replaces or supplements the copper portion of the network and plugs in to different equipment within that same cabinet.
Latency on DSL connections is usually an unavoidable result of DSL design: a line with error correction will introduce around 30ms of latency and without about 10-12ms, whereas with FTTx there is no changeover of modulation type required (ATM Ethernet) and so the latency is not there, otherwise both DSL and FTTx equipment (whether FTTB or FTTH) is interfacing with the same PON - it would be extremely cost INeffective not to, and telecom companies in Europe simply couldn't afford to (or the bean-counters wouldn't let them) have separate networks for different types of technology, especially when doing so isn't needed.
Source: My network designers are Swedish, I've lived in France and Finland and my FTTx equipment comes from a certain French company in the same brochure as their DSL equipment.
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I think there is no direct Undersea Cable to USA ... that the reason they re-route traffic through Europe.
if u try to ping to Los Angles .. traffic is through Satellite, Check it , there will no intermediate routes
What's wrong with you? There are plenty of undersea cables to the USA. Satellites do not have the capacity to handle the kind of traffic South-East Asia sends in that direction. MY traffic from Mumbai traverses one of these cables, but the traffic from this BSNL user doesn't for reasons only BSNL knows, and traffic to the US would end up in the THOUSANDS of milliseconds, not hundreds if it were.
Yeah u r correct they have connects to Global Crossing and some other Top European networks ...... mostly through TATA .. Even the european routes are worse ... Reliance is much better in that issue
GBLX is American. They also connect to Level3, which is also American (and the two have now merged, but networks and ASNs remain separate). Tata has significantly more capacity than Reliance (nearly 10x as much just in India), and any ISP in India will tell you that Reliance is the worst wholesale provider in India.
I am not is puzzled to know that internal routing is such a worse. In a 300 ms response time ... i took about 180 ms to reached the external Gateway in chennai ...
And took about 50 ms to reach my local gateway ... this definately sick ....
If you're getting 50 to your local gateway and 180ms to Chennai, something is seriously wrong with your connection. I'm in Mumbai and I'm getting 33-36ms to 59.163.201.153.static.chennai.vsnl.net.in. Granted, I'm not on ADSL but if I were it *should* be in the 50-60 range, tops.
Also, the routing problem described earlier in the thread was with Tata, not BSNL - which, from where I sit seems to be largely resolved.
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