An open letter to Hayai and MG Carley!

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hayai ? :isleep: IMO, there should not be any more posts/threads relating to Hayai until and unless the service actually launches..or the person posting on behalf of Hayai has anything substantial to post. We are sick and tired of reading/discussing and then again re-discussing threadbare speculative aspects of an imaginary service. It has been approx 2 yrs now that this has been going on, its high time to put the act together or stop giving false hope to people.
 
hayai ? :isleep:

IMO, there should not be any more posts/threads relating to Hayai until and unless the service actually launches..or the person posting on behalf of Hayai has anything substantial to post. We are sick and tired of reading/discussing and then again re-discussing threadbare speculative aspects of an imaginary service. It has been approx 2 yrs now that this has been going on, its high time to put the act together or stop giving false hope to people.

I think u are going too hard.......
But nevertheless i also had a scaled down view.. I was virtually amazed to see the thread SPEED TEST & PING TESTS of Hayai.
I mean the service isn't been launched yet and people are asking to post speed test results on an unloaded network ???
 
Hmm I m pretty sure u made a thread stating that ur college gave u a notice that becoz u have not been attending ur classes u will not be allowed to sit in the exams... So do u really feel its their fault u bunked the classes & had fun??? Hey I have bunked a few classes in my day but I m not stupid enough to say its the fault of the college that I didn't attend some classes... Take responsibly for ur own stupid actions...

PS Huge DONATION of Rs 60000??? really??? Was ur college in a remote far off village with a population of 100 ppl... 60k is peanuts my boy... Many of the boys & girls pay more than that in mumbai just for private tutors in the 10th Std... BTW it always seems to surprise me that u can talk about owning a Sony Laptops, TVs etc etc & talk about buying ur own flat in UAE but still find Rs60k as donation to be SUCH a HUGE AMT... Something is very very off here zzz...

That's the paradox, that's where the real fun lies..
 
devx101 said:
Is this a rule of govt. of india?
If ur application is still pending then the govt. authorities might have at least given some tentative dates when you would be given the final approval.....or ar u just in an eternal wait..

So far it's been a very long wait. I get given this month and that month but on several occasions dates have flown by without word, and harassing them on the phone isn't helping at the moment. And my lawyers are useless c**ts who just seem to enjoy emptying my wallet at the moment.

devx101 said:
'all else fails' i.e. there is a possibility that u might be not be given approval???

They could potentially find some reason to not grant it - they've done it before with some other paperwork and I've had to fight it.

operamaniac said:
get some puppets. use the method used by our politicians. if you cannot become the CM, make your wife the CM!

We have seriously considered it.

sach92 said:
Do 1 thing give them cash as a bribe, and also put an agreement with a govt that all future profits/losses of HAYAI would be shared with govt. like 10% of profits to govt.

Youuuuuuuuuuuuuuu think I don't know the concept of bakhsheesh and kickbacks? Jeez come on, I'm even doing the same in NZ, although indirectly, and NZ is supposed to be one of the least corrupt countries on earth.

sach92 said:
Even i got admission in college, bcause of a huge amount DONATION of RS 60,000. Now when the college got what they want they kicked me out, and more worst is they won't give the original stuff of mine back.:madness::madness:

They say now the college won't give original certificate back now & won't call untill october, so am i fool to wait 4 this much time.

Change that to dollars and that's what university in NZ costs. In rupees? That's nothing. For Bombay Scottish to even look at an application you have to give them many lakhs. I think St Xaviers is similar.

operamaniac said:
ooh losses would be shared by the government. this would be a nice strategy.

by the way, government already takes a part of your profits. it's call tax.

Not to mention the annual licence fee of 6% of my AGR.

TechGeek said:
yah ..And i think they must take the tax at least for upgrading our Mumbai to some golden city !!
I hope Mg you will be succeed in your Aim ;) Don't worry all out regards with you ...

Nah, they'll spend it all on Delhi as usual.

devx101 said:
Government sharing profits/LOSSES of PRIVATE comapnies ??? have you ever read civics/no what is the job of a govt.....

The govt of India has many more jobs,many more duties to do then to support pvt. companies and buy stakes in them.

The government doesn't support Pvt companies or buy stakes in them - when a company makes a profit, the government automatically takes a cut of it in the form of corporate taxation and sales tax (plus taxation of each individual worker). If the company makes a loss, the company makes much less tax (and has to actually PAY OUT sales tax - this is called a "loss attributing company" or something - I have one in NZ that I use essentially for this purpose).

sri said:
@MG..please launch you services as soon for providing us better services..:happy:

If I could launch tomorrow, I would, well... not tomorrow, maybe the day after. The best flights to India from NZ leave Auckland at 11am, and it's now 15.40.

cyberwiz said:
hayai ? :isleep:

IMO, there should not be any more posts/threads relating to Hayai until and unless the service actually launches..or the person posting on behalf of Hayai has anything substantial to post. We are sick and tired of reading/discussing and then again re-discussing threadbare speculative aspects of an imaginary service. It has been approx 2 yrs now that this has been going on, its high time to put the act together or stop giving false hope to people.

The "act" is together, but everything is dependent now on ME. Half the issue is that even though I come from a commonwealth country the lower-rank people keep applying the wrong regulations to every piece of paperwork I submit, which in some cases has delayed the applications by months more than they should have been while I try and get through to the higher guys who actually know what the damn situation is.

devx101 said:
I think u are going too hard.......
But nevertheless i also had a scaled down view.. I was virtually amazed to see the thread SPEED TEST & PING TESTS of Hayai.
I mean the service isn't been launched yet and people are asking to post speed test results on an unloaded network ???

The speed tests on page 6 or 7 of the speedtest thread were taken on a live network with about 10,000 subscribers using it.
 
I think u are going too hard.......
But nevertheless i also had a scaled down view.. I was virtually amazed to see the thread SPEED TEST & PING TESTS of Hayai.
I mean the service isn't been launched yet and people are asking to post speed test results on an unloaded network ???

Because they believe Hayai has been promising speeds that other ISP's have been telling as impossible..
If you can't eat the cake then atleast you can smell it or see it can't you?
 
Because they believe Hayai has been promising speeds that other ISP's have been telling as impossible..
If you can't eat the cake then atleast you can smell it or see it can't you?

But... clearly they're not impossible as they're available outside of India and 2 clearly they're not impossible as BSNL and Tata both have 100mbit/s plans... just... much more expensive. And fivenet now has it's 10mbit/s plan...

I've had SOME skepticism from other ISPs but most of it has been in the form of "what the hell do you want to give residential customers more than 1mbit/s for??"
 
hayai ? :isleep:

IMO, there should not be any more posts/threads relating to Hayai until and unless the service actually launches..or the person posting on behalf of Hayai has anything substantial to post. We are sick and tired of reading/discussing and then again re-discussing threadbare speculative aspects of an imaginary service. It has been approx 2 yrs now that this has been going on, its high time to put the act together or stop giving false hope to people.

Bro I am Also stopping posting in HAYAI threads dont know if its for real or not. Unless the service launches cant say anything!!



I think u are going too hard.......
But nevertheless i also had a scaled down view.. I was virtually amazed to see the thread SPEED TEST & PING TESTS of Hayai.
I mean the service isn't been launched yet and people are asking to post speed test results on an unloaded network ???

what Too hard??speed test and ping tests?? If u r talking about the india one hope u realise its from Honesty Net Solutions Even I can go in to my auncle's TATA Head Office and Post the speed test results Who has a 150mbit/s Connection. That Doesn't Mean That i Am also launching a ISP! Technically speaking, unless the service launches in ATLEAST ONE CITY You stop Dreaming.

As some one said in the Forum "Gao Baasa hi nahin, AA Gaye Bhikari Bheek maang ne"
 
what Too hard??speed test and ping tests?? If u r talking about the india one hope u realise its from Honesty Net Solutions Even I can go in to my auncle's TATA Head Office and Post the speed test results Who has a 150mbit/s Connection. That Doesn't Mean That i Am also launching a ISP! Technically speaking, unless the service launches in ATLEAST ONE CITY You stop Dreaming.

I'm pretty sure that since we're buying bandwidth in conjunction with them and sharing a few resources it's important to know they're capable of delivering the speeds we're talking about. What if they only had a 45mbit/s line and were promising me speeds of 100mbit/s or more?

Since they've been helping me our a lot on ensuring we won't get our services disrupted by cablewalas, they've been an important part of this project and as I'm reasonably sure I mentioned on page 1, there have been considerations of taking that whole relationship deeper by Hayai possibly absorbing their retail operations at some point and they can concentrate on being a wholesaler.

And I can't stop dreaming otherwise 2 years of putting this thing together will fall apart. I'd LOVE to launch in a couple of days, but my hands are tied. I'd have loved to launch last year, but my hands were tied then too. I'm doing everything humanly possible to get this going. You're welcome to participate or not - I'm dying to prove to everyone that it will be done.
 
But... clearly they're not impossible as they're available outside of India and 2 clearly they're not impossible as BSNL and Tata both have 100mbit/s plans... just... much more expensive.

That is what makes the cake eatable.. to be possible to eat and to be palatable has a difference, doesn't it?

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I'm pretty sure that since we're buying bandwidth in conjunction with them and sharing a few resources it's important to know they're capable of delivering the speeds we're talking about. What if they only had a 45mbit/s line and were promising me speeds of 100mbit/s or more?

Since they've been helping me our a lot on ensuring we won't get our services disrupted by cablewalas, they've been an important part of this project and as I'm reasonably sure I mentioned on page 1, there have been considerations of taking that whole relationship deeper by Hayai possibly absorbing their retail operations at some point and they can concentrate on being a wholesaler.

And I can't stop dreaming otherwise 2 years of putting this thing together will fall apart. I'd LOVE to launch in a couple of days, but my hands are tied. I'd have loved to launch last year, but my hands were tied then too. I'm doing everything humanly possible to get this going. You're welcome to participate or not - I'm dying to prove to everyone that it will be done.

I'm with you, don't worry. Just keep on going, and we're ready to wait (atleast I am).
 
Operamanic this exact though came to my mind lsat night, thinking is is even real??? but in summary all we can say is K sera Sera and keep fingers crossed,if its not we will have helluva story about a helluva con!
 
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