can any one tell me abt super saver package is worth

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In addition to compression, quality of the original feed also determines the final quality. May be Tata Sky can divide the channels into two groups and compress the poor grade feeds (likd dd) to a greater extent and leave the good channels alone. This way they can include more channels, without additional transponders. I remember reading that their uplinking facility has capacity upto 1000 channels and upto 4 satellites. I think they will offer more fare after getting convinced that Indian customers are willing to spend upto Rs. 2000 or more for specialist channels.
 
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The picture quality depends upon how much they compress their channels. As of now Tata Sky has only few crap channels so they didn't need to compress much. On the downside we loose a lot of good channels and we had to be content and pretend to be happy with few craps. This is not a longterm solution. So soon they might add more usefull channels thereby loosing picture quality. As you don't have quantity you are imagining that your quality is great. These are all just belifs which cannot be proved.

You are really wise Mr. Wiseman. Let me tell is there any need in India to have 400 - 1000 channels. May 10% of the DTH service many need 400 or 1000000000 channels but the mass in india dont need that much of channel. As previously expresses in various thread. If I am a north indian, I would like watch the Star plus, ZEE, Sony and their movie channels, may be sports channels more importantly cricket telecasted channels, music channels, some news & information channel. It would just come areound 30 -40 watchable channels and its vice versa If am a Tamilian rather than Hindi channels most of the people like to watch their own Regional channel rather than other channels. So why should we bother about 400 or 100000000 channels. Its just a crap for me but 10% of the subscriber base might be interested i dont deny. With respect to transponders TataSky might be short now and they should not be in a hurry to do anything as of now rather they should wait for the launch of Reliance & Sun. Dish TV might be adding channels & buying transponders its not their money its all share holders money but with respect to TataSky its their own money. TataSky has got as many transponders what Dish TV has rather than planning for short term look for long term. I belive that there would be a stiff competition in market only between Tata & Reliance after 2 yrs in DTH market.
 
You are really wise Mr. Wiseman. Let me tell is there any need in India to have 400 - 1000 channels. May 10% of the DTH service many need 400 or 1000000000 channels but the mass in india dont need that much of channel.

Pardon me; the same arguments were raised earlier. Why so many television channels- 4 or 5 per language is sufficient. Why so many cars - we don't have roads? Why so many mobiles - who will talk? All this premises have been proved false. Indians are in the top league as far watching tv or talking on the mobile. We talk more month-minutes than the americans. Even smaller countries (UK for e.g) have close to 200 free channels and an equal number of paid channels. We, in contrast, are multi lingual; there is lot of scope for regional, national, hindi and english channels in addition to specialist channels for travel, sports, adventure, cooking and learning/education.
 
You are really wise Mr. Wiseman. Let me tell is there any need in India to have 400 - 1000 channels. May 10% of the DTH service many need 400 or 1000000000 channels but the mass in india dont need that much of channel. As previously expresses in various thread. If I am a north indian, I would like watch the Star plus, ZEE, Sony and their movie channels, may be sports channels more importantly cricket telecasted channels, music channels, some news & information channel. It would just come areound 30 -40 watchable channels and its vice versa If am a Tamilian rather than Hindi channels most of the people like to watch their own Regional channel rather than other channels. So why should we bother about 400 or 100000000 channels. Its just a crap for me but 10% of the subscriber base might be interested i dont deny. With respect to transponders Tata Sky might be short now and they should not be in a hurry to do anything as of now rather they should wait for the launch of Reliance & Sun. Dish TV might be adding channels & buying transponders its not their money its all share holders money but with respect to TataSky its their own money. TataSky has got as many transponders what Dish TV has rather than planning for short term look for long term. I belive that there would be a stiff competition in market only between Tata & Reliance after 2 yrs in DTH market.
Well Aju I don't know why you always come out with Dish Tv agian and agian. Here people are discuss about Super package of Tatasky.

For you kind information, Tatasky will also came with market listing in 2008. Check lataest edition of Indianmarkets July edition.

I also agree that we people harly watch 5 to 6 channels. Rest of are never see. :D :D But we only hope for new channels. :D
 
Well Aju I don't know why you always come out with Dish Tv agian and agian. Here people are discuss about Super package of Tata Sky.

For you kind information, Tatasky will also came with market listing in 2008. Check lataest edition of Indianmarkets July edition.

I also agree that we people harly watch 5 to 6 channels. Rest of are never see. :D :D But we only hope for new channels. :D

I am not against to do with Dish TV. Some one in this thread has posted regarding the quantity of channels regarding Dish TV for that i have replied. One thing i wanted to tell you if dish tv is increasing their channel quantity for 400 TataSky cant sit with the same number of channels and its vice versa too. At the end of the day we will get benifitted whether its tatasky or dish tv subscribers:thumbsup:. My point was that even if tatasky goes and adds for 300 channels or dish tv how many channels we are going to watch hardly 30 may be 50 at the max. Any way lets see how the market trend goes.
Can you provide me the link of Indian market july edidtion please.

Temasek buys into India market


SUDIPT ARORA
After acquiring a controlling interest in Thailand's largest telecommunications firm, the Singapore government investment arm Temasek Holdings has announced that it is set to take equity stakes in India's leading mobile phone operator and direct-to-home (DTH) operator.
A mobile phone user passes an Airtel promotion in Bangalore. — BLOOMBERG NEWS
Temasek came under fire in Thailand for buying a controlling stake in Shin Corp, which formerly owned the television operator iTV Plc until the government took it over and changed its name to TITV. Now the state-run company wants to take a 4.99% stake in Bharti Airtel, one of India's largest mobile phone operators, and a 10% stake TataSky:thumbsup:, India's leading DTH operator.
The deals could be the largest private equity transactions in India. Bharti Enterprises, the holding company that owns Bharti Airtel, will marginally increase its stake from 45%, while the combined holdings of Temasek and Singapore Telecom (SingTel) will go up to 36%. Temasek owns 56% of SingTel, which already has a 30.5% stake in Bharti Airtel.
SingTel says it will have first rights to Temasek Holdings' stake in Bharti Airtel and Bharti's 4.99% stake.
Temasek was granted an option to buy the stake from Bharti Enterprises on July 3, but no financial details were revealed. Bharti executives refused to divulge the deal size or a timeframe for negotiations. At current market prices, the stake is worth $2 billion.
Vodafone had picked up a 10% stake in Bharti Airtel in 2005 for $1.5 billion. However, following its acquisition of a majority stake in Hutch-Essar for $10.9 billion, Vodafone entered into a share sale agreement with Bharti to sell back the 5.6% direct stake in Bharti Airtel for $1.6 billion. Vodafone will continue to hold its 4.39% indirect stake in Bharti Airtel.
This will be Temasek's second investment in a telecom company in India after it bought 9.9% of Tata Teleservices.
Mobile phone companies in India have seen sales and profits surge as the economy has boomed in recent years. India has been adding nearly six million new connections every month, which makes it the world's fastest growing mobile phone market.
Bharti Airtel competes with Reliance Communications, government-owned Bharat Sanchar Nigam Ltd and Hutchison Essar.
On June 9, the direct-to-home (DTH) venture Tata Sky offloaded 10% stake to Temasek for $56 million. Temasek has the option to increase its stake further to the permissible limit of 26%. With the move, Tata's stake in the company has dropped to 70%.
Incorporated in 2004, Tata Sky started off as an 80:20 joint venture between the Tata Group and television network Star. It launched DTH service last year. The joint venture partners had earlier stated that the project would cost them about $750 million.
Tata Sky has a total subscriber base of more than half a million, and intends to increase it to one million by August. The competition in the DTH market is heating up with the proposed entry of cash-rich companies such as Reliance, Bharti and Sun TV. Tata Sky is now the market leader:yahoo:. At the current rate of the growth, India would have anything between 15 million and 20 million DTH subscribers in the next five to six years.

Bangkok Post : Business news
 
I am not against to do with Dish TV. Some one in this thread has posted regarding the quantity of channels regarding Dish TV for that i have replied. One thing i wanted to tell you if dish tv is increasing their channel quantity for 400 Tata Sky cant sit with the same number of channels and its vice versa too. At the end of the day we will get benifitted whether its tatasky or dish tv subscribers:thumbsup:. My point was that even if tatasky goes and adds for 300 channels or dish tv how many channels we are going to watch hardly 30 may be 50 at the max. Any way lets see how the market trend goes.
Can you provide me the link of Indian market july edidtion please.

Temasek buys into India market


SUDIPT ARORA
After acquiring a controlling interest in Thailand's largest telecommunications firm, the Singapore government investment arm Temasek Holdings has announced that it is set to take equity stakes in India's leading mobile phone operator and direct-to-home (DTH) operator.
A mobile phone user passes an Airtel promotion in Bangalore. — BLOOMBERG NEWS
Temasek came under fire in Thailand for buying a controlling stake in Shin Corp, which formerly owned the television operator iTV Plc until the government took it over and changed its name to TITV. Now the state-run company wants to take a 4.99% stake in Bharti Airtel, one of India's largest mobile phone operators, and a 10% stake TataSky:thumbsup:, India's leading DTH operator.
The deals could be the largest private equity transactions in India. Bharti Enterprises, the holding company that owns Bharti Airtel, will marginally increase its stake from 45%, while the combined holdings of Temasek and Singapore Telecom (SingTel) will go up to 36%. Temasek owns 56% of SingTel, which already has a 30.5% stake in Bharti Airtel.
SingTel says it will have first rights to Temasek Holdings' stake in Bharti Airtel and Bharti's 4.99% stake.
Temasek was granted an option to buy the stake from Bharti Enterprises on July 3, but no financial details were revealed. Bharti executives refused to divulge the deal size or a timeframe for negotiations. At current market prices, the stake is worth $2 billion.
Vodafone had picked up a 10% stake in Bharti Airtel in 2005 for $1.5 billion. However, following its acquisition of a majority stake in Hutch-Essar for $10.9 billion, Vodafone entered into a share sale agreement with Bharti to sell back the 5.6% direct stake in Bharti Airtel for $1.6 billion. Vodafone will continue to hold its 4.39% indirect stake in Bharti Airtel.
This will be Temasek's second investment in a telecom company in India after it bought 9.9% of Tata Teleservices.
Mobile phone companies in India have seen sales and profits surge as the economy has boomed in recent years. India has been adding nearly six million new connections every month, which makes it the world's fastest growing mobile phone market.
Bharti Airtel competes with Reliance Communications, government-owned Bharat Sanchar Nigam Ltd and Hutchison Essar.
On June 9, the direct-to-home (DTH) venture Tata Sky offloaded 10% stake to Temasek for $56 million. Temasek has the option to increase its stake further to the permissible limit of 26%. With the move, Tata's stake in the company has dropped to 70%.
Incorporated in 2004, Tata Sky started off as an 80:20 joint venture between the Tata Group and television network Star. It launched DTH service last year. The joint venture partners had earlier stated that the project would cost them about $750 million.
Tata Sky has a total subscriber base of more than half a million, and intends to increase it to one million by August. The competition in the DTH market is heating up with the proposed entry of cash-rich companies such as Reliance, Bharti and Sun TV. Tata Sky is now the market leader:yahoo:. At the current rate of the growth, India would have anything between 15 million and 20 million DTH subscribers in the next five to six years.

Bangkok Post : Business news
Well Aju, All things going well but it should be clear from FIPB. Tatasky want sold 10%.

While other hand Dish Tv had applied for 27% Forgin investment but still need approval from FIPB. Once they got approval Dish Tv can do anything because its large company in it have 27%.

While on that book, You have to find out it on the bookstore because I read that on Angel Broking office in Surat.:)


Also on channels, We hardly see 10 channels daily more than 10 minutes. But people wants more. If you provide 1000 channels,people still saking for more channels.

We know whenever we have new channels viewrs looks that channels for first few days because of new channels but they igonore it.

I know when BBC lunched all were happy but I am sure hardly 10% people watch this channel at the moments.

I will show you one example of my friend. He have Cable connection and he didn't watch History channels but last week due to some arrangement Cable operorse change feed to English and he is calling them for hindi feed. So people does not watch channels of feeds but they are happy with numbers.

I am sure if Tatasky and Dish Tv both add 400 channels next year. People still want channels.

Many people asking for HBO channels and Goal TV channels. But almost all of them doesn't aware that HBO channels have no downlink persmission in India. Also those channels are very costly. In Soith asian DTH they charged $27 for thier 5 channels. When we have those channels we have to ready to pay 100 Rs extra because Dialog tv have it but they pay 600 INR or 1600 Srilank Ruppes.
 


Also on channels, We hardly see 10 channels daily more than 10 minutes. But people wants more. If you provide 1000 channels,people still saking for more channels.

I know when BBC lunched all were happy but I am sure hardly 10% people watch this channel at the moments.

I will show you one example of my friend. He have Cable connection and he didn't watch History channels but last week due to some arrangement Cable operorse change feed to English and he is calling them for hindi feed. So people does not watch channels of feeds but they are happy with numbers.

I am sure if Tata Sky and Dish Tv both add 400 channels next year. People still want channels.


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your dam right india. Still now I have hear from the members that BBC ent is a good channel but till date i have not seen any programme on that channel as i am not interested and also there are movie channels both in english & Hindi harldy even in the week end i hardly watch movies as most of the movies are repeated. Its the sports channel which is more important. and we are getting good spors channels as of now.
I wanted to make one point here why people need sky sports in tatasky. As most of the cricketing, Football, F1, Tennis are provided in Espn Star and Skys own channel is Star. I belive its just a name change in Asia as Star and more or less same programme content are there with Sky sports with respect to Star. I do agree that Sky sports has many channels but we need to grow still interms of viewership with respect to other sports apart from cricket.
 
I totally agree with you hitman. In my case also it was my decision to purchase Tata Sky just for picture quality of channels. I am happy what i have got and satified too. I do agree with some people that tatasky lacking onething thats of channel addition but its no bothering. At this point of time i am interested in only one channel that is neo sports and that too i belive we will get once any matches are played india. I dont under stand why people are going quantity of channels at the end of the day we hardly watch 2 - 4 hrs a day of TV in working days and in week ends we might strech to 8 hrs. Most of the time if cricket, F1, Football are played we dont bother about other channels. I belive only a certain segment of people belive in 200 - 400 number of channels. HArdly a person might be interested in 20 - 30 pay channels. So why we should bother about 400 channels.:wall:.

I am sure tatasky has got money and at that right time they will increase the channels when needed:thumbsup:.

well ajuravi007 and hitman,

See you won't say it your mouth but from your comment here shows that you also are not feeling good about it and you may have some regrets but still i appriciate and respect for your thinking .....but its just a advice please don't take it otherwise ...for a long run and seeing there prospects i feel dish tv has advantage over tata sky.
 
well ajuravi007 and hitman,

See you won't say it your mouth but from your comment here shows that you also are not feeling good about it and you may have some regrets but still i appriciate and respect for your thinking .....but its just a advice please don't take it otherwise ...for a long run and seeing there prospects i feel dish tv has advantage over Tata Sky.
I also agree with Neo001, Might be you are watching some 10 odd channels but there are other viewers who are watching more and if as i heard zee channels will be out from tatasky after 28th july then its really a advantage for dish tv.
 
Well... if u feel so than I can't help it out... But for me the decision I took was the best... The way dishtv is running... it surely is destined to fail.. 100crore loss in this yr and I don't see anything changing in next 1 yr cos of this 1 year free scheme ... They surely have more channels (if u add up all dd junk and fm etc) ... But the bottom line for me is tht they don't have the quality... quantity can be increased anytime dear but u can't say same abt quality ;) ... Moreover Tata Sky shows all those channels which I need so its more than enough for me... Compare STB quality, software quality, Installation, CC etc with tatasky and than we can decide ;) ...
 

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