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you are missing something big here. gmail search cannot not even show results by relevance. they are sorted by dates. google is a master of indexing. yes. but they are from what i see... are not maintaining individual indexes of all the gmail users around the world. gmail search is actually slower than google search even though it has to search a very small amount of data... right? there is no google instant for gmail searching right now. frankly speaking opera can search through my mails faster on my computer than gmail can search through my mails online.
why? i do not have the answer but i would imagine that... google search is a centralized database where they can afford to provide outdated results which can be inaccurate in some cases/... gmail search has to be realtime and accurate. even google has not achieved perfect searching on emails.
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i remember reading some blog post from a gmail developer on how labs made life complicated for them.
from what i remember... they do not load a separate js file for each lab you have selected. that was too inefficient for them.
so what they do is. they have javascripts for every possible permutation and combination of labs features. and a single one is selected based on what labs items are enabled by the user. it was pretty incredible to read through that blog post.
i also remember some articles about how gmail search is so bad today. and what google is planning to do to improve upon it. it is pretty clear that searching through individual's gmail database is probably a bigger challenge that the google's primary search engine
why? i do not have the answer but i would imagine that... google search is a centralized database where they can afford to provide outdated results which can be inaccurate in some cases/... gmail search has to be realtime and accurate. even google has not achieved perfect searching on emails.
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i remember reading some blog post from a gmail developer on how labs made life complicated for them.
from what i remember... they do not load a separate js file for each lab you have selected. that was too inefficient for them.
so what they do is. they have javascripts for every possible permutation and combination of labs features. and a single one is selected based on what labs items are enabled by the user. it was pretty incredible to read through that blog post.
i also remember some articles about how gmail search is so bad today. and what google is planning to do to improve upon it. it is pretty clear that searching through individual's gmail database is probably a bigger challenge that the google's primary search engine
google search is a centralized database where they can afford to provide outdated results which can be inaccurate in some cases/... gmail search has to be realtime and accurate.
An extremely valid point. With approximations in place, it is easier to get results. It is also easier to get the first 'n' records of a zillion ones, as opposed to sorting those zillion
An extremely valid point. With approximations in place, it is easier to get results. It is also easier to get the first 'n' records of a zillion ones, as opposed to sorting those zillion
found the blog post 
Gmail Labs goes global - Official Gmail Blog
You may wonder, since most Gmail features are available in almost every supported language immediately at launch, why Labs hasn't been. The truth is that Labs itself is a bit of an experiment -- it came out of people's 20% time, and we weren't sure if it would really work. Specifically, we thought there was a chance that everything would just break. Every time a Gmail user signs in we create a custom version of JavaScript for them based on the Labs features they have enabled. Since we have 43 Labs right now, there are 243 (~8 trillion) possible versions of the Gmail JavaScript that a user could get. If you account for the 49 languages where Labs are now available, it gets even bigger -- 49 x 243 (~430 trillion) versions. It would obviously be a challenge to actually test all of these versions. But we put a lot of effort into building an architecture that supports this type of modularity, and fortunately, it seems to be working pretty well so far. So we figured, why not, what's another another 422 trillion permutations?
ok i was sort of wrong... they create a custom version of javascript for each user. they do not have a database of javascript with each possibility
Gmail Labs goes global - Official Gmail BlogYou may wonder, since most Gmail features are available in almost every supported language immediately at launch, why Labs hasn't been. The truth is that Labs itself is a bit of an experiment -- it came out of people's 20% time, and we weren't sure if it would really work. Specifically, we thought there was a chance that everything would just break. Every time a Gmail user signs in we create a custom version of JavaScript for them based on the Labs features they have enabled. Since we have 43 Labs right now, there are 243 (~8 trillion) possible versions of the Gmail JavaScript that a user could get. If you account for the 49 languages where Labs are now available, it gets even bigger -- 49 x 243 (~430 trillion) versions. It would obviously be a challenge to actually test all of these versions. But we put a lot of effort into building an architecture that supports this type of modularity, and fortunately, it seems to be working pretty well so far. So we figured, why not, what's another another 422 trillion permutations?
ok i was sort of wrong... they create a custom version of javascript for each user. they do not have a database of javascript with each possibility
Hmm.. so Yahoo which has more accounts and unlimited space, if it can provide sort option.. why cant gmail?i have a feeling that this is design limitation somewhere by gmail. i dont know what though. it also does not allow you to search more then 20 messages at a time.. which again seems to be design limitation.it looks to me as that both the limitation are related. i know in future they will iron it out.. but lets see.
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this reminded me of the conversation here. it is pretty clear that google is not creating independent index for gmail ids. they would probably someday come out with an update that would fix this issue. or maybe not considering it has been like this since day one
this reminded me of the conversation here. it is pretty clear that google is not creating independent index for gmail ids. they would probably someday come out with an update that would fix this issue. or maybe not considering it has been like this since day one
I found a small Google search bug.
Google allows you to search for a definition of any word by using keyword define
lets say you want to search for word hate!
earlier u cud search by searching for define:hate i.e. define COLON hate.
but now it seems like google has made it more intuitive.. u can simply search with define hate i.e. define SPACE hate. this is good move.
but while doing so they have created a bug in old system
if u still use old method define:hate... it gives u NO results, but it still recognizes that u r trying to search for a definition..
whatever u search it will give this as answer:
No definitions were found for hate. (hate replaced by word u searched for)
define:hate - Google Search
now google shud hire me as tester!
Google allows you to search for a definition of any word by using keyword define
lets say you want to search for word hate!
earlier u cud search by searching for define:hate i.e. define COLON hate.
but now it seems like google has made it more intuitive.. u can simply search with define hate i.e. define SPACE hate. this is good move.
but while doing so they have created a bug in old system
if u still use old method define:hate... it gives u NO results, but it still recognizes that u r trying to search for a definition..
whatever u search it will give this as answer:
No definitions were found for hate. (hate replaced by word u searched for)
define:hate - Google Search
now google shud hire me as tester!
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