what you guys generally download from internet.

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you are justifying piracy like terrorist justify terrorism. They say that they are killing innocent people due to their JIHAD. can you justify that?
As i said - do u get the TV shows that i mentioned?? Do u get the Memorable Matches that i mentioned??

We are talking about piracy not internet. If you download vintage stuff legally then its power of internet, and if you download pirated then its piracy.internet is blessing and piracy is weed in that. Even after 100 yrs you dont have right to download vintage stuff ,if you dont have rights to do it. Do you know that google was sued by some publishers when they tried to use some vintage books(some really great books) on their search engine. If you dont get the vintage stuff other than internet then it doesnt mean that you will pirate that. In case if creator allows you to do so then its fine.
Even I am fan of serials like zaban sambhal ke, alif laila, etc but if I am downloading this stuff without creator knowledge or permission then I am thief nothing else.

JUST TO FIND OUT THAT I HATE THAT THING.......Just to find out that it isnt to my tastes.......
What do i do in such situations?? Do these Profit-mongering companies come forward to buy back their shit?? Or do they give refunds??

What happens in the end - U end up paying for something u dont like, & then u dont get the thing u like due:
1) Being already stung once.
2) Cant think of spending another 1000 bucks on a new game/200-300 bucks for a movie immediately, coz the wallet has already become lighter.
Whereas in downloading, its simple - u download, u like it, u keep it. U dont like it - Shift+Delete.....just the loss of Bandwidth time.

Making you and me happy is not the job of the companies..right? How many times you went to new resataurant and you didnt liked the food?
Did you had the chance to download the taste and feel the taste before going to that restaurant. So why are you differentiating digital stuff(movies,games,TV shows etc) with that? Just that it is digital doesnt make it different from any kind of service/product.
You are saying this very easily becoz you know that you can watch movies beforehand , can download games before buying that.
If you cant afford to buy any stuff then dont buy that, but pls dont justify piracy. As simple as that
And its not like the companies cant afford selling at low prices. They very well can afford it.
Instead of showing (HIGH PRICE)x(Low Volume) SALES reduced by Piracy losses.......they can very well reduce the prices, and show (Low Price)x(HIGH VOLUME) Sales.
If they leech us that way, we leech them in this way.

How can you say that? Are you CEO of an software company or producer of any movie?.
See the bottom line is that its their product whether they want sell it for free or for 1million dollars. It their property/product/service. No one in the world can challenge that.
 
What i suggest is that if you watch 100 pirate movies atleast buy 2 original, if u play 20 games - buy 1 original & buying a OS is mandatory. I didn't do anything(coz of financial crisis) i've said it in here. But will surely take a oath to do it in the near future. I know the pain they take to entertain us. We should respect them.
 
i would not deny the obvious. but i switched to a paid copy of Windows as soon as I got an opportunity to buy it at a reasonable price. apart from a copy of Windows Vista that I got with my Dell Laptop... I have now paid for one copy of Vista and one copy of Windows 7. I have also paid for a copy of Office 2007. i got a free copy of Office 2010 by some luck after i participated in a survey program from Microsoft (!). i would probably get a copy of Windows 8 whenever it launches. i would have avoided using a pirated copy of Windows when I was not doing so well financially... But my work required apps that only worked on Windows. now that most of my work is web based, i can easily switch to Ubuntu full time if i have to. i actually used Ubuntu for a period of 6 months even though I had a paid copy of Vista lying with me because the system configuration i had was simply not good enough for Vista. i cannot condone microsoft for pricing their operating system so high. i mean if airtel can get away with charging 5000 rupees for 100GB data transfer, i surely cannot blame microsoft for charging 8-12K for a top edition of their primary operating system product.
 
you are justifying piracy like terrorist justify terrorism. They say that they are killing innocent people due to their JIHAD. can you justify that?

Killing, that too in the name of Jihad is 1 thing......

And trying to get something out of companies who set prices for products out of their Whims & Fancies is another.

And still, i am no fan of using all paid stuff by using piracy - i dont like to pay, so i am moving towards open source stuff. And my Antivirus is a paid version - BECAUSE its price is not unreasonable.

U earn profits, no 1 can stop u from that. But if u loot the public in the name of profits - ABNORMAL profits, then its wrong. I HOPE U HAVE HEARD SOMETHING KNOWN AS CORPORATE SOCIAL RESPONSIBILITY......

Even after 100 yrs you dont have right to download vintage stuff ,if you dont have rights to do it.

If the creator doesnt claim his rights over his stuff for this long, then why r u fighting out in defence of a non-existent right?? Most laws limit ur rights to claim something, or file any lawsuits to at max 7-10 years. After that - it has to be a freebie.

Making you and me happy is not the job of the companies..right?

So, is it my job to make them happy by paying up for something which i end up disliking??

How many times you went to new resataurant and you didnt liked the food?

1) Firstly, restaurants do not charge high rices for Bullshit dishes......if a majority likes it, only then it charges SOME premium. Mind u "SOME" premium. Not exorbitant.
2) Secondly, 1 dish that i didnt like, doesnt cost me 1000+ bucks.....its just about 50-60 odd....

3) Thirdly, i know u will argue that there are Big restaurants which charge exorbitantly & there, the cost of disliked dishes can go up.

Still, for that day, ur stomach is filled right?? U do not need to spend for a dish of ur taste, coz u DONT HAVE ANY HUNGER LEFT. Thats not the case with Digital stuff. U dont like a game, u need another game. U dont like a Movie, u need another......

How can you say that? Are you CEO of an software company or producer of any movie?

U dont need to be a CEO of any company for knowing this. Its not Rocket Science. Its Simple Accounting.

Its simple Debit & Credit.

U can:
Either have Astronomical Margins, with less Units sold.....

OR

Have Normal Margins & record High Volumes.

Ultimately the Sales figures even out.

But in the former case, u have to bear the loss by piracy & stock lying unsold. Which doesnt happen in the Latter one.

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Take the case of Moser Baer......they have virtually eliminated Piracy in the field of the movies & other shows that they have released on their low priced range of release.

U wont believe, i have a whole CD Album - capacity of around 120 Discs, full of Moser baer CDs/DVDs.......Thats the difference that normal prices make. But sadly Moser Baer isnt selling each & every thing that i need, neither is each & every stuff released by them always "In stock".
 
I will download English Movies and Software.
Me too but no soft only bollywood and sometimes hollywood also. That is why my usage sometimes goes upto 100 Gb per month. I also have voip in network which is 24x7 on and daily it consumes 3 hrs of calling. It means minimum 6-7Gb usage of voip per month.
 
There is a group of people who use internet, 3G, Wimax etc, but you will never see the pulse of real India here. Parents earning as less as your one month pocket money get computers on instalment for their kids. Do you think they can afford original MS Office, Windows and other packages priced in dollars ? All offices have to shift to Linux and Open Office if all these basic computer users are compelled to use free alternatives. How many companies (small scale) use original software. Do you think we get cheap web designing offers if those who can't buy genuine photoshop refuse to learn it ?And how many of you pay taxes in real without conjuring fake medical and travel bills. Many feel that owning a genuine Windows (I have one) makes them legitimate and model citizens. These theories will work in the group we have here who pays Rs. 1,000 + for internet, Rs. 10,000 + for Windows and other softwares and games. Those who buy are doing great things, but don't call others thief. I have used " You " many times in this post. I have no intention to personally target anyone and neither do I think those making software should not be paid. But they get enough returns from those who can afford to buy it.
 
Mate, i am with u fully!!I actually hadnt even thought from this point of view!! Thanks for bringing out this aspect!!
 
U earn profits, no 1 can stop u from that. But if u loot the public in the name of profits - ABNORMAL profits, then its wrong. I HOPE U HAVE HEARD SOMETHING KNOWN AS CORPORATE SOCIAL RESPONSIBILITY......

I would say one thing that if you are finding anything expensive then dont buy it. It is that simple. You are emphasising again and again that you find original too expensive .Why dont you say that BMW is over expensive. If I and you can afford that then we would buy it. Otherwise wont.

If the creator doesnt claim his rights over his stuff for this long, then why r u fighting out in defence of a non-existent right?? Most laws limit ur rights to claim something, or file any lawsuits to at max 7-10 years. After that - it has to be a freebie.

I am not fighting for anybody. I am just saying what is right and what is wrong. If the creator of the content dont have any issues that its fine but in all other cases it wrong and illegal.

So, is it my job to make them happy by paying up for something which i end up disliking??

Yes it is. If you dont like that still you are bound to pay for it.I gave the example of restaurant becoz i wanted to say that food you ate cant be reversed(put back into the plates) and they wont return your money. Then why are you biasing towards digital stuff. Digital stuff is just like any other product and service. Tell me any product in which you liberty to use it before buying?

U dont need to be a CEO of any company for knowing this. Its not Rocket Science. Its Simple Accounting.

Its simple Debit & Credit.

U can:
Either have Astronomical Margins, with less Units sold.....

OR

Have Normal Margins & record High Volumes.

Ultimately the Sales figures even out.

But in the former case, u have to bear the loss by piracy & stock lying unsold. Which doesnt happen in the Latter one.

its not that simple dude. If you find this so much simple then can you tell me who decides the price of particular product or service? ceo? board?...
Answer: its you and me. if windows was that expensive then Bill gates would be in streets not the richest person in the world. People bought windows and paid for it.
Ok lets take from other perspective.lets lower the price of digital stuff. Just tell the exact price of windows and games which you think is appropiate .
Dude, you cant lower price of the stuff which can be pirated so easily..isnt it? Even if you say that you can sell me something for Rs 1 then I would say that why pay that also If I can get it for free !! Hope you got my point
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Take the case of Moser Baer......they have virtually eliminated Piracy in the field of the movies & other shows that they have released on their low priced range of release.
U wont believe, i have a whole CD Album - capacity of around 120 Discs, full of Moser baer CDs/DVDs.......Thats the difference that normal prices make. But sadly Moser Baer isnt selling each & every thing that i need, neither is each & every stuff released by them always "In stock".

Yes they have tasted success but the basic problem remains the same. I always have cam rips torrents available to me on the next day of release of the movie.
That is the piracy which is hurting most of the movie producers. Do you have that kind of patience to wait for one-two months for maoserbaer DVD for watching latest flick. ? and after that also its not the guarantee that you will certainly get one.
 
I am feeling sorry for this mentality, the third last post.Aren't you guys ashamed that you are insulting India?Pulse of India, come on dude, you are one people who insults India.Our traditions, cultures, ethics.. does they teach you to steal something that you can't buy? Does your or my father taught us, ke beta if you can't earn something, steal it and say Jai Bharat?Jeez, piracy has been in to your mind to the extent of making your sense of sensibility ****ed up.Ever heard of this kahavat? Jitni chadar ho itne pair falao? Now, am ashamed that this is our young generation. ****ed up minds.Your principles are so week that, you changed your perspective of looking at things just because of your economic state.
 
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