Reliance Big TV DTH Connection / Brochure Pictures Attached

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Thanks Adder

I had been waiting for a reply for this for quite some time.
As you have mentioned, there are no model 2 STB available. Do you believe the model 2 could be a high end box considering that it has an optical audio out, and therefore worth waiting for?

well its hard to say whether its a high end one,it does have a coaxial digital out for audio but i doubt it will make a differnce since the audio given by big tv is stereo and audio is sent at around 190kb/s and video is sent at around 700kb/s to 900kb/s this includes the pay per view ch.

i believe the model 2 is for people who want a choice of interpolability between different dth providers since it has a CAM slot.

only the HD stb will be the high end ones like the one used in reliance IPTV which has a HDMI out.

 

[pranay91]

BIG TV may not be worth for Sports Lovers!!

Look at their 3 different TOPUP packages:

Sports-1 (40 Rs.)


Sports-2 (40 Rs.)


Uni Plus (25 Rs.)


What a joke!! (40 + 40 + 25 = 105 Rs. only to get all those sports channels!!!)

They idiots have kept ZEE TV along with these sport package!!! Unbelievable combination and business tactics.

and then see this:
Elite Plus (25 Rs.) BBC with Zee Trendz and Zee Cafe


News Plus (25 Rs.)


If they have already categorized "News Plus" then why the hell keeping BBC with Zee Trendz and Zee Cafe (and why not in News Plus??????????)

Bloody Reliance. They know how to suck people. They dont have a courage to do a straight business and earn profit. Always making things confusing and we poor people get nothing out of it.

If we see this, then we feel that they are the real Business FU**ER. Anil F**** Ambani Group. AFAG (not adag)!

the Uni + pack is actually RS 25 per channel. So for star cricket its 25 rs and for ten sports its 25RS. But it doesnt matter much, if you take starter pack 3 you get Ten Sports and I think zee tv too.
Think about it, go to epsnstar.com and see that they are actually charging 40RS to sell these 2 channels to DTH companies per suscriber. So it is good Reliance is providing it at no PROFIT.
Same with Neo Sports, atleast you get to watch it unlike TS. And suppose it was in the Starter Pack, the pack would be more expensive every month, so its better this way, just suscribe wheneven there is a home series.

Well I respect Anil for what he does, he's here to make money and he's surely doing that, should he also become like Doordarshan, give everything for free but the free stuff is Rubbish.
Also note these prices are much cheaper than what ppl are paying around the world for DTH.
For 30 Indian channels Im paying 2000RS + per month, but its atleast DVD quality, my friends hve TS here which is about a tenth of the price but 8times more channels but its crap quality so i dont mind spending.
If BIG can provide actual DVD quality Im ready to pay as much as they want (realistically).

 

[santosh.s]

well its hard to say whether its a high end one,it does have a coaxial digital out for audio but i doubt it will make a differnce since the audio given by big tv is stereo
Coaxial digital would be a must if they provide surround sound. But even with stereo sound, high end home theater receivers can extract the best with that connector rather than analog outputs of STB.

and audio is sent at around 190kb/s
That's pretty good!

and video is sent at around 700kb/s to 900kb/s this includes the pay per view ch.
Are you sure about this? Based on reviews (especially by @design ), I find it hard to believe! That should be far (behind!) from true DVD quality I believe. Is this the present situation? Source please?

BTW, I had used BSNL IPTV for some time, there bandwidths where 128Kbps or so for audio (not so sure, but definitely more than 100) and 2-3 Mbps for video (mpeg4). Still the average quality of both audio and video was worse than expected (I suspect on many channels they were probably loosing at the source itself, rather than during their own compression. And looks like that may not be the case with BIG TV)

 

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Coaxial digital would be a must if they provide surround sound. But even with stereo sound, high end home theater receivers can extract the best with that connector rather than analog outputs of STB.

That's pretty good!

Are you sure about this? Based on reviews (especially by @design ), I find it hard to believe! That should be far (behind!) from true DVD quality I believe. Is this the present situation? Source please?

BTW, I had used BSNL IPTV for some time, there bandwidths where 128Kbps or so for audio (not so sure, but definitely more than 100) and 2-3 Mbps for video (mpeg4). Still the average quality of both audio and video was worse than expected (I suspect on many channels they were probably loosing at the source itself, rather than during their own compression. And looks like that may not be the case with BIG TV)
IPTV B/W and DTH B/W is different in manners. There is Compression process which set everything. So it depends on which copression method they are using. Dish TV managing it by improved process otherwise it is impossible to carry 136 Channels, 22 Network service and Data service like Users Information, EPG on 8 Transponders.

 

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Coaxial digital would be a must if they provide surround sound. But even with stereo sound, high end home theater receivers can extract the best with that connector rather than analog outputs of STB.

That's pretty good!

Are you sure about this? Based on reviews (especially by @design ), I find it hard to believe! That should be far (behind!) from true DVD quality I believe. Is this the present situation? Source please?

BTW, I had used BSNL IPTV for some time, there bandwidths where 128Kbps or so for audio (not so sure, but definitely more than 100) and 2-3 Mbps for video (mpeg4). Still the average quality of both audio and video was worse than expected (I suspect on many channels they were probably loosing at the source itself, rather than during their own compression. And looks like that may not be the case with BIG TV)

unfortunatley they arent providing surround sound atleast as of now.btw surround sound like DD 5.1 plays at 448kb/s and dts 700kb/s so i doubt big tv would even think about it, i am satisified with the sound ,over time u will loose intrest in surround sound like in my case,for me its pure stereo amp .

well about video well dont forget dvd are encoded in MPEG2 mostly around 2mb/s to 4mb/s,where big tv is using mpeg4 which uses less space and is good at retaining quality.now the source of the info about compression well at the moment i dont have since i saw the website almost a month ago and i cleared all the history and cache,but its in one of the sattelite info websites some good googling will do the trick,i remember seeing TS uses about 1.9mb/s for video and they are using mpeg2.the resolution of Tata Sky is unknown but big tv is giving at 576i via component since the lcd shows the info . my only concern is the quality when they increase the no of ch.hope they get or start using additional transponders.

now about bsnl well dont forget the bsnl only provided composite out ,all the amino stb was well capable of giving component ,u only require the multipin cable which bsnl doesnt provide,however i think u can request the IOL people to provide the cable,since initialy i was considering to go for bsnl iptv but cancelled it when i came to know about reliance IPTV.anyway at that time i did speak to the VP of IOL bangalore he said sure that wont be a problem and that they can source it when asked about the amino component cable .

 

[designwebgraphic]

My STB is playing again and had a mess with it. Completely stopped working.RED, GREEN, YELLOW lights again keep blinking and not staying steady to start channels.I lodged a complaint to CC and same answer - "will be resolved within 48 hours".I called up local office and as usual, keep throwing excuses "sending engineer, just left, coming in half an hour" and even after 6 hours - no response and no one came.TV is completely off for a day.GUYS - i said this earlier and keep saying - DO NOT BUY RIGHT AWAYWait for some time (at least next 2-3 months). DONT BUY NOW.

 

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My STB is playing again and had a mess with it. Completely stopped working.

RED, GREEN, YELLOW lights again keep blinking and not staying steady to start channels.

I lodged a complaint to CC and same answer - "will be resolved within 48 hours".

I called up local office and as usual, keep throwing excuses "sending engineer, just left, coming in half an hour" and even after 6 hours - no response and no one came.

TV is completely off for a day.

GUYS - i said this earlier and keep saying - DO NOT BUY RIGHT AWAY

Wait for some time (at least next 2-3 months). DONT BUY NOW.

well i myself have been saying from the begining about the problems but that didnt stop u from getting BIG tv this time demand them u want the model 2

 

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well i myself have been saying from the begining about the problems but that didnt stop u from getting BIG tv this time demand them u want the model 2
Yes but we also know that model 2 is new and not tested anywhere! Who knows he maight be have more problems.

 

[santosh.s]

dvd are encoded in MPEG2 mostly around 2mb/s to 4mb/s,where big tv is using mpeg4 which uses less space and is good at retaining quality.
As per my knowledge, professional DVDs are dual layer disks with about 8 Gb capacity (DVD9). If you consider very good 448Kbps for DD5.1 audio, and video duration of 2 and a half or 3 hours, video bitrate turns out to be 6-7Mbps. Refer to this online calculator: Bitrate Calculator That's what should be called pure DVD.

With mpeg4, thumb rule is that you should be able make it half, so 3+ Mbps!

i remember seeing TS uses about 1.9mb/s for video and they are using mpeg2.
As per above, this should be equivalent to 950Kbps mpeg4. No wonder a few people have reported similar picture quality on big tv:redface:

however i think u can request the IOL people to provide the cable,
He he... I had to cancel IPTV due to noise/bandwidth issues:wall:Since they are capable of using 3+Mbps mpeg4, theoretically they should be able to provide true DVD quality DD surround etc. In reality however, picture and sound both are much worse (varies from channel to channel). That's why I said that quality of the source signal fed to them itself may be bad!

 

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As per my knowledge, professional DVDs are dual layer disks with about 8 Gb capacity (DVD9). If you consider very good 448Kbps for DD5.1 audio, and video duration of 2 and a half or 3 hours, video bitrate turns out to be 6-7Mbps. Refer to this online calculator: Bitrate Calculator That's what should be called pure DVD.

With mpeg4, thumb rule is that you should be able make it half, so 3+ Mbps!

As per above, this should be equivalent to 950Kbps mpeg4. No wonder a few people have reported similar picture quality on big tv:redface:


well lets not forget that dth,iptv,or any other broadcasting platform will never match dvd quality,if u download HD videos transmissions from BBC HD like the programme planet earth and compare that to the BLUE RAY version of the same there is a lot of difference because the bbc hd transmits at around 6mbps of video versus blue ray which is around 20mbps.

well not all dvd 9 uses the entire 8.5 gb of data i happen to have a one genuine dual layer FIFTH ELEMENT DVD but only 70% of the space is used that includes bonus hidden content.

so we can conclude that these dth and other provides when they say dvd quality they only mean the resolution ,i have said before that when i saw spider man2 in big tv pay per view ch the quality was about 75% good of the 4.5gb pirated spiderman 2 played via xbox.

the reason i feel big tv is better is because of the component out .