Expectations and Feedback for Hayai Broadband

[cst1992]

Let him launch first and then request him for the speed tests.:grin::grin::grin:
I think it is foolish to ask(request) an ISP for a speed test. I think speed tests are for users and not ISP's.:grin:

I think mgcarley will also agree to it.:wink:
If hayai claims the speeds will be same for the users and his own network, then it should be fine.

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When I'm on the network I will do that.

There's only one problem: even my new-ish laptop only has fast ethernet so I'm gonna have to find a computer (laptop or desktop) that's got at least gigabit to give such results (I'm envying a new HP Envy anyway so... maybe that can be it's first performance test).

And by "business speed tests" I assume you mean like, 1Gbit/s to a speedtest.net server (and/or downloading some random file from some website)?

Envy has a gigabit card.
I would recommend the former over both as the latter may not max out the connection.

 

[devx101]

If hayai claims the speeds will be same for the users and his own network, then it should be fine.

Nope claims are different from the real world.
His system is not even loaded with users, how the hell can u interpret and analyze the results

 

[cst1992]

Nope claims are different from the real world.
His system is not even loaded with users, how the hell can u interpret and analyze the results?

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Nope it is not correct.
His system is not even loaded with users,how the hell will u interpret and analyze the results?
Hayai claims the minimum to be 78 mbps and the average to be several hundred mbps so let users atleast see this on speedtest and pingtest results, as the current status of that sticky thread disagrees with that statement.

Merge your double post.

 

[mgcarley]

Of course, the business users should be able to see what they'll get.

Well... there's not really any way you can easily distinguish a speed test result as being from a residential or business connection, possibly excepting the upload speeds. What would be more impressive is to set up 10 run-of-the-mill computers and run a video camera past each one showing it downloading at least 90-100mbit/s.

Let him launch first and then request him for the speed tests.:grin::grin::grin:
Moreover I think it is foolish to ask(request) an ISP for a speed test. I think speed tests are for users to test and not ISP's.:grin:

I think mgcarley will also agree to it.:wink:

We've already had some up, but IMO these are slow now.

If hayai claims the speeds will be same for the users and his own network, then it should be fine.

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Envy has a gigabit card.
I would recommend the former over both as the latter may not max out the connection.

The latter will give a better real-world indication though.

Nope claims are different from the real world.
His system is not even loaded with users, how the hell can u interpret and analyze the results?

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Nope it is not correct.
His system is not even loaded with users,how the hell will u interpret and analyze the results?

I could post results from a live network instead.

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Hayai claims the minimum to be 78 mbps and the average to be several hundred mbps so let users atleast see this on speedtest and pingtest results, as the current status of that sticky thread disagrees with that statement.

Merge your double post.

That's intra-network speeds... that's equivalent to other ISPs "minimum 256kbit/s to the ISP node" bit.

Out to the real world could be anything, depending on where the traffic is going. It wouldn't be realistic to say we can offer 100% of users that kind of speed 100% of the time at any given time of the day to somewhere in say, London or New York or Santiago.

There's no reason users couldn't get 78mbit/s to various points abroad, it's just not something we can guarantee due to congestion (most of it outside of our network).

 

[cst1992]

There's no reason users couldn't get 78mbit/s to various points abroad, it's just not something we can guarantee due to congestion (most of it outside of our network).

So all your speeds count as in intra-network transfers(what we'll get intra-network) unless you connect to servers other than HNS.
What about Google or youtube? It's in the Hayai Zone too, ain't it?

 

[mgcarley]

So all your speeds count as in intra-network transfers unless you connect to other than HNS.

If I understand the question correctly, then no. Default speed on all connections is 1Gbit/s. (GPON trees are 2.5Gbits / 32 users = 78mbit/s, so this is a "minimum" speed in the network).

From there, you're rate-limited at our network's border to whatever plan speed you're on, so if you're a 10mbit/s flat-rate subscriber, anything OUTSIDE of our network is rate limited to a maximum of 10mbit/s. Anything INSIDE the network still runs at up to 1Gbit/s.

What about Google or youtube? It's in the Hayai Zone too, ain't it?

Pretty much - if it's served by us, cached by us, or from a user on another ISP with whom we have a private bi-lateral peering agreement (ie, not NIXI peering), then it's in HZ.

Youtube is a tough one, because not all Youtube content is cached (especially if you're the first to access the content)... so that would be a half-yes.

 

[acc1444]

If I understand the question correctly, then no. Default speed on all connections is 1Gbit/s. (GPON trees are 2.5Gbits / 32 users = 78mbit/s, so this is a "minimum" speed in the network).

From there, you're rate-limited at our network's border to whatever plan speed you're on, so if you're a 10mbit/s flat-rate subscriber, anything OUTSIDE of our network is rate limited to a maximum of 10mbit/s. Anything INSIDE the network still runs at up to 1Gbit/s.



Pretty much - if it's served by us, cached by us, or from a user on another ISP with whom we have a private bi-lateral peering agreement (ie, not NIXI peering), then it's in HZ.

Youtube is a tough one, because not all Youtube content is cached (especially if you're the first to access the content)... so that would be a half-yes.

Yes I have read it some where else about youtube where I do not remember. If user accessed the video from youtube, that video will load faster than the first buffering. Second time it will be transferred from nearest cache.

 

[mgcarley]

Yes I have read it some where else about youtube where I do not remember. If user accessed the video from youtube, that video will load faster than the first buffering. Second time it will be transferred from nearest cache.

Yes but we can't guarantee from which it would be.

 

[Daddycool]

Yes I have read it some where else about youtube where I do not remember. If user accessed the video from youtube, that video will load faster than the first buffering. Second time it will be transferred from nearest cache.
If you are talking about the same user on the same computer then it is already cached locally so there will be zero lag.

 

[mgcarley]

If you are talking about the same user on the same computer then it is already cached locally so there will be zero lag.

No, talking about different users on the same network. If one guy accesses the video then it will come from whereever, but after that it should come from our cache of the same.