I haven't read the whole thread so I apologise if answered already.
Will you be launching in delhi this Diwali?
If yes, what will the unlimited plan cost? Reasonable FUP, I hope...
I currently pay 1299+ taxes for 1 Mbps "unlimited"
Delhi: not at Diwali. Jan or Feb 2012 or so we are expecting to roll in to NCR.
Our flat-rate* plans range from Rs2k (20mbit/s) up to Rs5k (1,000mbit/s).
*Flat-rate does not mean "unlimited": it refers to price, not usage. As such, we expect you to use the network responsibly. For those that were unsure of what "responsibly" means, we published some numbers to give a rough idea. You can go over them, but just don't go crazy.
So just how "unlimited" is your "unlimited" plan?
2000+taxes(?) is a little pricey for a residential connection.
I'll be okay with 1500 including taxes for 2 MBPS, 125-150 GB FUP
See my sig: speed doesn't cost, data does.
As of now, a plan at Rs1,500 would come with an FUP equating to quite a bit less than our "rule of thumb" FUPs that are out there at the moment (due to the increased percentage of the cost of the infrastructure as compared to the total price of the plan).
But since we're covering the Rs650-2000 price bracket with data plans anyway, you're better off with one of those - for that money, you could get 100GB at up to 1gbit/s for Rs1,550 (and no, reducing the speed to 1 or 2mbit/s would not reduce the price - I still have to pay the same amount for the cabling and equipment, irrespective of what speed I offer you the service at).
I guess the discussion is mute since they are not launching in delhi anytime soon.
20 Mbps sounds sweet but still 2000 is a bit much for normal users. JMO...
Frankly, we're not going for "normal" users with these plans. We have plans suited to "normal" users between Rs299 & Rs649 including tax per month, which are still relatively fast (up to 54mbit/s), but wireless (so are more likely to average about 10mbit/s), with data caps ranging from 5 to 30GB per month, or our Fiber plans starting at Rs550 + usage (at Rs10/GB).
I really don't understand your logic, you are paying 1300 + taxes (so that's I assume around 1400) for 1 MBPS "fake" unlimited, you want 2 MBPS in 1500 + taxes (that would be 1600..) but you are getting 20 MBPS for 2000 including taxes with 200 GB non-strict FUP so if for some reason in July you feel the need to download 40 blu ray movies you can easily do it without thinking about your FUP and then just stay below 200 GB next month, and that's just 400 more than your 1600 thing. Pretty strange.
Also, "FUP" aside, our 20mbit/s plan works out cheaper than MTNL's 2mbit/s plan in Delhi (just) - we're 1812+tax, they're 1899+tax
The 'cheapo' plan you are referring to is out of reach for most average Indians in metro cities. I'm not talking about tier-2 cities here.
1500 rupees per month is not cheap for middle class people in indian metros.
Without respect to where you live (whether a metro or a tier-2 city or elsewhere), as a percentage of the income for what is considered "middle class" in this country as of 2010, it's perfectly affordable. If you're earning less than that, you're not middle-class, and if that's the case then I would agree that our service is not affordable.
However, there are other operators in India who will service your needs in the sub-1000 price bracket, as they seem to fit in to what the existing providers already offer, and lucky for you, there are well over 100 such operators nationwide.
I honestly can live with 2 Mbps speeds. At that speed YouTube videos load well enough. Enough for me.
In our world, our focus is not on price, it's on service. If you can live with 2mbit/s, then awesome for you. But we and many others can't. Putting aside all other variables (price, FUP etc), 2mbit/s is by any standard nothing short of slow, and we're simply not interested in providing such speeds when there are already companies like MTNL and Airtel to do just that for you.
To put things in perspective, At 1299+taxes, I get free calls, IPTV also. If I just want 1 Mbps broadband, I can get MTNL 999 plan which is half of 2000 that you are comparing....
So take that only - nobody will force Hayai on to you. This is the joy of having a choice
I'm sorry but 1500 per month is not lower end of market.
You're right, it's not. We do offer plans in that price bracket (and lower), but they are not flat-rate/unlimited. Our goal has been to bring European-quality/speed Internet to India, which is looking to be very much possible now. Unfortunately for you, this comes with European pricing as well. We're unfortunately not yet at the level of HK and Japan whereby we could offer 100mbit/s unlimited for Rs1k.
I guess it isn't.
If IPTV & free calls are included in 2000 plan, it makes sense for me. Otherwise NOT.
Hayai's name literally means "speed", so if you are unable to see our value proposition, you are welcome to stay with your existing provider until such time as you can justify switching over to us. I think we'll one day be able to offer cheaper prices, but even I can't guess what they will be 12, 24, 36 months from now.