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[mgcarley]

@Mgcarley

Can u explain why pings to Us servers are worst compared to asia servers? They Buy bandwidth from TATA ( thats confirmed)
Youtube(360p) video buffers a 3 -4 times. Why does this happen only to Us servers?

Simple explanation: The USA is further away. The laws of physics dictate that even at the speed of light, pings will be higher as the distance increases.

Maybe they only pay for a route that goes as far as Singapore, and from there their traffic contends with everyone else. If they purchased a route that went to the US then their traffic to the US would be dedicated to them only. Of course, there is also the possibility that they buy routes to the US and they're just congested. I can only speculate, as I'm not associated with Beam Telecom in any way.

 

[techfreek]

Simple explanation: The USA is further away. The laws of physics dictate that even at the speed of light, pings will be higher as the distance increases.

Maybe they only pay for a route that goes as far as Singapore, and from there their traffic contends with everyone else. If they purchased a route that went to the US then their traffic to the US would be dedicated to them only. Of course, there is also the possibility that they buy routes to the US and they're just congested. I can only speculate, as I'm not associated with Beam Telecom in any way.

I cant Believe TATA(vsnl) from whom beam buys bandwidth has such Bad route to Us servers!:isleep:

 

[mgcarley]

I cant Believe TATA(vsnl) from whom beam buys bandwidth has such Bad route to Us servers!:isleep:

No no, you've got me wrong. Tata has the routes, the submarine cable networks and the arrangements to the US - Tata also owns Tyco, which makes AS4755 (Tata/VSNL) a pretty global network touching almost every continent.

Even though Tata can offer routes to the US and beyond, they'll be more expensive than a route that only goes as far as Singapore, so what I meant was that Beam may only br buying circuits that go as far as Singapore, maybe Hong Kong. But as I said, I can only speculate.

Out of interest, what are your pingtimes to the USA?

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For the record, Youtube buffering MAY be a result of your DNS settings. Try using Beam's DNS servers and see if it still buffers. If Beam or Tata has part of Youtube's content delivery network on it's edge, the performance difference should be noticable.

Just this morning I tested the same with the iSky service here in NZ (launched this morning) - using 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 the video buffered like hell (considering I have well over 10mbit/s it shouldn't buffer at all), but using my ISP's DNS servers (who is peered with the iSky service) it streams smoothly.

It's just one of those things - the ISP's DNS server can know where to send traffic in a more effective manner to certain services which use CDNs, Youtube included, whereas public DNS servers will mean that traffic originates at the closest point to the public DNS'es network, which in these kinds of cases is less than ideal.

 

[techfreek]

Washington
http://www.pingtest.net

New York:
http://www.pingtest.net

Dallas:
http://www.pingtest.net

Sydney:
http://www.pingtest.net

Malaysia:
http://www.pingtest.net

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No no, you've got me wrong. Tata has the routes, the submarine cable networks and the arrangements to the US - Tata also owns Tyco, which makes AS4755 (Tata/VSNL) a pretty global network touching almost every continent.

Even though Tata can offer routes to the US and beyond, they'll be more expensive than a route that only goes as far as Singapore, so what I meant was that Beam may only br buying circuits that go as far as Singapore, maybe Hong Kong. But as I said, I can only speculate.

Out of interest, what are your pingtimes to the USA?

---------- Post added at 02:02 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:54 PM ----------

For the record, Youtube buffering MAY be a result of your DNS settings. Try using Beam's DNS servers and see if it still buffers. If Beam or Tata has part of Youtube's content delivery network on it's edge, the performance difference should be noticable.

Just this morning I tested the same with the iSky service here in NZ (launched this morning) - using 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 the video buffered like hell (considering I have well over 10mbit/s it shouldn't buffer at all), but using my ISP's DNS servers (who is peered with the iSky service) it streams smoothly.

It's just one of those things - the ISP's DNS server can know where to send traffic in a more effective manner to certain services which use CDNs, Youtube included, whereas public DNS servers will mean that traffic originates at the closest point to the public DNS'es network, which in these kinds of cases is less than ideal.

MY pings to Google and Beam DNS:

 

[itzmynet]

the pings your are getting to US servers cannot be considered as high, they are in acceptable range

 

[techfreek]

the pings your are getting to US servers cannot be considered as high, they are in acceptable range

Acceptable but Video Buffering Is Irritating. On a 2mbps connection youtube 360p Vdo's Buffer 2 to 3 times, I dont understand why..

 

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[mgcarley]

MY pings to Google and Beam DNS:



The pingtimes you've posted are roughly what I would expect you to get. I get similar pings to Washington from here in NZ and according to the distance calculation, we're about the same.

As for your pingtimes to the DNS servers, these are not exactly relevent - the DNS servers themselves will essentially determine how your traffic will get from the source (the CDN) to the destination (you).

You should try the pingtest to youtube.com after changing the DNS settings in your OS - chances are youtube.com will even resolve to different IP addresses on different networks - case in point:
http://twitpic.com/3ngtcc

 

[techfreek]

+1

 

[mgcarley]

I tried changing DNS
The first one is BEAM's and the Second one is Google DNS.

Image: http://i55.tinypic.com/fkpod3.jpg

ok Problem kinda solved!

See, what did I tell you? You can go and tell everyone else now (just don't take ALL the credit)

 

[ranjitbhar]

vikkymath with a 2 Mbps connection you should get even 480p youtube vids without buffering but that is the problem with beam even when I was on 4 Mbps connection youtube vids 480p / 360p used to buffer and make m crazy, it just looks like there connectivity to the US is messed up or as mgcarley suggested they don't have dedicated / priority routes to the US.I did try various DNS including Beams but it did not help that much.